Jews

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

 

[Daniel cain 46,201]

52 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

Dan; Check out Jasenovac. Broaden ye mind, mate.

crazy shit mate...in the program I watched..2 bullets to each adult if the children could stand unaided...they were shot alongside the adults,1 in each the babies were held above their heads and shot, ...mass rapeings and sex orgies with the young girls then shot and tossed in a ditch....

 

[Nicepix 5,650]

46 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

There were Romanian and Ukrainian Nazi collaborators involved in the holocaust who were shot for war crimes in Crimea and Transnistria.

Cheers.

There were camps in France too. We visited on in Gurs where they detaineď Jews, gypsies and other 'undesirables' before sending them by rail to the death camps. It started out housing Spaniards fleeing Franco on the basis that if they weren't fascists they must be communists. Then they detained all the Germans after Germany invaded France and latterly became a Nazi concentration camp under the Vichy government. The hut where 60 prisoners would have been housed was barely bigger than our motorhome. 

[jeemes 4,498]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

watched a program on the nazi death camps...the Romanian and Ukrainians gassed and killed untold Jews in the second world war..as sick as the Nazis...how come none  of them were tried for war crimes?

The Nazis got the Ukraniuns to do the dirty work when the germans themselves started to sicken of it. I think the idea was to bung the Ukrainiuns in last. 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,184]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

watched a program on the nazi death camps...the Romanian and Ukrainians gassed and killed untold Jews in the second world war..as sick as the Nazis...how come none  of them were tried for war crimes?

They were . 

trawniki men were attached , if I remember rightly to , einstazgruppen squads and as camp auxiliary guards. A lot of these mid - Eastern European men simply vanished into the turmoil of Europe post the collapse of Berlin . However the late 80s saw several high profile trials of such people , most notably fedor federenko and of course , John demjanjuk. 
these people , put bluntly were animals . 
 

by and large the trawniki men were from the myriad greater Russian satellite states or from country’s the nazis deemed the people as being from Germanic stock such as tartars , ukes etc. 

I find that whole thing fascinating , being a Russian soldier , then captured and seconded to an ss unit to inflict untold atrocities on your supposed cultural enemies ( remember , these countries were never exactly modicum’s of sematic brotherhoods themselves ) then disappear to the us and live in anonymity for the remainder of your lives . 

john demjanjuk was identified as being Ivan the terrible , the treblinka guard who took swords to the waiting women and children amongst the jews awaiting the gas chambers . 
 

when he worked at the ford plant in Cleveland I think  , he was extremely popular for his kindness , his work ethic , his love of family , the church and the wider Ukrainian community . He was the perfect example of a sociopath . 
 

there’s a fantastic series about it on Netflix called the devil next door . Worth a watch . 

[Daniel cain 46,201]

6 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

They were . 

trawniki men were attached , if I remember rightly to , einstazgruppen squads and as camp auxiliary guards. A lot of these mid - Eastern European men simply vanished into the turmoil of Europe post the collapse of Berlin . However the late 80s saw several high profile trials of such people , most notably fedor federenko and of course , John demjanjuk. 
these people , put bluntly were animals . 
 

by and large the trawniki men were from the myriad greater Russian satellite states or from country’s the nazis deemed the people as being from Germanic stock such as tartars , ukes etc. 

I find that whole thing fascinating , being a Russian soldier , then captured and seconded to an ss unit to inflict untold atrocities on your supposed cultural enemies ( remember , these countries were never exactly modicum’s of sematic brotherhoods themselves ) then disappear to the us and live in anonymity for the remainder of your lives . 

john demjanjuk was identified as being Ivan the terrible , the treblinka guard who took swords to the waiting women and children amongst the jews awaiting the gas chambers . 
 

when he worked at the ford plant in Cleveland I think  , he was extremely popular for his kindness , his work ethic , his love of family , the church and the wider Ukrainian community . He was the perfect example of a sociopath . 
 

there’s a fantastic series about it on Netflix called the devil next door . Worth a watch . 

cheers Stuff,going to watch that next

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

Got a Greek friend ~ in Greece, incredibly. Just mention Ukrainian's to her and stand Well fukking back!

 

[steve66 3,562]

Good film on last night about the czech resistance and a nazi general behind the holocaust 

film called , man with a iron heart ..... worth a watch  

[mackem 27,519]

56 minutes ago, steve66 said:

Good film on last night about the czech resistance and a nazi general behind the holocaust 

film called , man with a iron heart ..... worth a watch  

I stood down in that crypt for maybe 20 minutes on my own, atmospheric just thinking what memories the walls contained. 

 

[waltjnr 7,019]

Was there a sewer the other side of the wall ? 

[mackem 27,519]

7 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Was there a sewer the other side of the wall ? 

You could see where they had tried to dig through the wall Walt to look for it. 

[waltjnr 7,019]

Cool cheers mack ! Your better than Google maps street view!