ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 true but for whatever reason its brushed under the carpet .incompetence yes . preasure from those in power ..maybe!!!i child molester got 15 years and let out after i cant remember 2 or 3 years now who the fk makes those decisions not social workers for sure .how can anyone but someone in power alow that to happen fkn absolute maddness There could be many factors at play but I believe the major factor is down to the inability of social services to function. There are so many of these civil servants woefully underskilled that many, and I'd argue the majority, are completely unfit for purpose. The complete lack of accountability from management that is also unfit for purpose exacerbates the issue. The police in these cases are turning away victims. Can we successfully argue that they're missing a skillset in these cases? Or just not bothered enough to act unless their own necks are on the line? When I read "We were scared to say anything because we didn't want to be considered racist" it translates to "We haven't got a f***ing clue what to do so I'm going to deflect the issue and attempt to absolve my department from blame." Ironically those in charge of sentencing are also civil servants... That's three departments covered in one post. being serious How dondemnad accountability And how many people will care in six months time The apathy and the lack of accountability are shocking Vote and write to your MP. Demand a sitting at their surgery. I did it back in the day with the hunting act. It was ultimately for nothing but you get to get into their grills about it. You personalize the issue. How many will care? That's a tough one to answer. Hopefully enough to make a change, or else you're stuck with what you've got. To the third point, I cannot agree more. Change won't happen overnight, unfortunately. We know these cases are the tip of the iceberg but until normal everyday people demand the change it won't happen. It IS a race/religion/culture issue,dancing around that is the biggest disservice to the victims past,present and most importantly future that can be committed,because it will never resolve the root problem. Trying to hold people to account who work for a system designed to stop accountability,combined with a culturally Marxist ideology and a good slice of Islamic nepotism thrown in for good measure is utterly futile. I've always looked at it as a child abuse issue. Identifying and protecting victims is preferable to convicting criminals. If you want to focus on one section of the problem, that's fine, but you're going to allow the others to wriggle out of their part of the blame too. If you want allies in the fight against paedos don't allow the political opponents to hijack your argument and divert it. The whole is stronger than the sum of its parts. Anything less than justice is a disservice to the victims. You can either change the system from within or burn it to the ground and start over. Option two will never happen in the United Kingdom. Too many people are too involved with stopping that from happening. A complete reset needs to be done but you need to change the attitudes from within. The only way to do that is to demand accountability and not settle until there is any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Interesting article on the white mama-san,she is petrified of going into prison apparently. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4783378/Mail-asks-Carolann-Gallon-sank-sex-trafficking.html Good, I hope she spends her days in fear until she's found swinging in her cell. That really is one vile creature that the world be better off without. Have you noticed how the article is trying to make her sound like she's the victim of her upbringing, and didn't know any better?! She's a f***ing criminal plain and simple. Bad on you Daily Fail. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,365 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Coached by some lowlife defence solicitor no doubt. Boils my blood. A wrong one, is a wrong one! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Coached by some lowlife defence solicitor no doubt. Boils my blood. A wrong one, is a wrong one! Best advert for not reading the Mail right there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,816 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 true but for whatever reason its brushed under the carpet .incompetence yes . preasure from those in power ..maybe!!!i child molester got 15 years and let out after i cant remember 2 or 3 years now who the fk makes those decisions not social workers for sure .how can anyone but someone in power alow that to happen fkn absolute maddness There could be many factors at play but I believe the major factor is down to the inability of social services to function. There are so many of these civil servants woefully underskilled that many, and I'd argue the majority, are completely unfit for purpose. The complete lack of accountability from management that is also unfit for purpose exacerbates the issue. The police in these cases are turning away victims. Can we successfully argue that they're missing a skillset in these cases? Or just not bothered enough to act unless their own necks are on the line? When I read "We were scared to say anything because we didn't want to be considered racist" it translates to "We haven't got a f***ing clue what to do so I'm going to deflect the issue and attempt to absolve my department from blame." Ironically those in charge of sentencing are also civil servants... That's three departments covered in one post. being serious How dondemnad accountability And how many people will care in six months time The apathy and the lack of accountability are shocking Vote and write to your MP. Demand a sitting at their surgery. I did it back in the day with the hunting act. It was ultimately for nothing but you get to get into their grills about it. You personalize the issue. How many will care? That's a tough one to answer. Hopefully enough to make a change, or else you're stuck with what you've got. To the third point, I cannot agree more. Change won't happen overnight, unfortunately. We know these cases are the tip of the iceberg but until normal everyday people demand the change it won't happen. It IS a race/religion/culture issue,dancing around that is the biggest disservice to the victims past,present and most importantly future that can be committed,because it will never resolve the root problem. Trying to hold people to account who work for a system designed to stop accountability,combined with a culturally Marxist ideology and a good slice of Islamic nepotism thrown in for good measure is utterly futile. I've always looked at it as a child abuse issue. Identifying and protecting victims is preferable to convicting criminals. If you want to focus on one section of the problem, that's fine, but you're going to allow the others to wriggle out of their part of the blame too. If you want allies in the fight against paedos don't allow the political opponents to hijack your argument and divert it. The whole is stronger than the sum of its parts. Anything less than justice is a disservice to the victims. You can either change the system from within or burn it to the ground and start over. Option two will never happen in the United Kingdom. Too many people are too involved with stopping that from happening. A complete reset needs to be done but you need to change the attitudes from within. The only way to do that is to demand accountability and not settle until there is any. its been going on for decades ok ,the recent events are relativly new and every man and his dog knows why .. and will continue ,the mindset of the folk in recent events just doesnt fit in our culture. , the mindset of the in circle of those incharge is im ok jack fk the rest ..we dont want to rock the boat were doing ok!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I've always looked at it as a child abuse issue. Identifying and protecting victims is preferable to convicting criminals. If you want to focus on one section of the problem, that's fine, but you're going to allow the others to wriggle out of their part of the blame too. If you want allies in the fight against paedos don't allow the political opponents to hijack your argument and divert it. The whole is stronger than the sum of its parts. Anything less than justice is a disservice to the victims. You can either change the system from within or burn it to the ground and start over. Option two will never happen in the United Kingdom. Too many people are too involved with stopping that from happening. A complete reset needs to be done but you need to change the attitudes from within. The only way to do that is to demand accountability and not settle until there is any. I don't disagree with any of that,the councils,but police etc are irredeemable at this point,it's not their attitudes that need replacing it's them and particularly their leadership. Trying to hold them to account with no leverage is just a waste of time. The problem is the solution,these inept/brainwashed/treacherous people are just obstacles slowing things down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 It seems to me that goverment bodies are unwilling to tackle the problem - they're unwilling to call a spade a spade, as it were. Councils tread carefully for fear of 'offending' a section of their electorate (a policy which actually ends up working the perpetrators, social services are ill-equipped to deal with the scale of the problem and suffer from the same PC-induced blindness as their employers, while the police tread even more carefully - they seem reluctant to take any involvement, and have gone so far as to tamper with evidence and disregard victim statements...... I get the distinct feeling that we're pi55ing into the wind ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye18 164 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Here's my problem with 'the Muslim issue'..... ....what can we do ? What can the ordinary fella in the street, like me and you, actually do about it ? Put the silly "hang 'em and burn 'em" stuff aside, what can each of us physically do, on a meaningful everyday level, to turn this around ? Don't spend in their shops ? Tick. Don't ride in their taxis ? Tick. Don't interact socially ? Tick. Keep your kids/grandkids away from theirs ? Tick. Refuse to donate to certain charities and causes ? Tick. Support a 'resistant group' (and I'm saying no more) ? Tick. Hasn't made the slightest difference.....so what do I do now ? Anyone got any serious ideas, 'cos I'm f***ed if I know ! Ive said this in another thread but Other than open warfare and an Arkan style wipe em out policy the only way forward is for patriots to get into places of influence like politics,media and education.Change the way people think and then their attitudes and actions will change and the backlash will come.This tactic is what has worked well for the do good left wing commie scum for the last 50 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,507 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Not forgetting some of those in positions of authority on local councils and such like will have been indoctrinated in left wing idoligy wile at university i believe this was instremental in a lot of the cover ups in Rotherhams CSE cases were you had one of the main culprits a Gordon Jelly who was an active member of the socialist workers party.https://libertygb.org.uk/news/gordon-jelley-swps-rotherham-social-worker-muslim-sex-grooming-gangs Edited August 12, 2017 by tatsblisters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,365 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Coached by some lowlife defence solicitor no doubt. Boils my blood. A wrong one, is a wrong one! Best advert for not reading the Mail right there... I enjoy reading the DM for what it is.. A comic. I didn't read the Dandy or Beano for world news! (although they did cover the second world war very well) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not forgetting some of those in positions of authority on local councils and such like will have been indoctrinated in left wing idoligy wile at university i believe this was instremental in a lot of the cover ups in Rotherhams CSE cases were you had one of the main culprits a Gordon Jelly who was an active member of the socialist workers party.https://libertygb.org.uk/news/gordon-jelley-swps-rotherham-social-worker-muslim-sex-grooming-gangs He strikes me as "the nut job's nut job" ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,507 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not forgetting some of those in positions of authority on local councils and such like will have been indoctrinated in left wing idoligy wile at university i believe this was instremental in a lot of the cover ups in Rotherhams CSE cases were you had one of the main culprits a Gordon Jelly who was an active member of the socialist workers party.https://libertygb.org.uk/news/gordon-jelley-swps-rotherham-social-worker-muslim-sex-grooming-gangs He strikes me as "the nut job's nut job" ! Horrible arrogant piece of work by the sound of things I also am led to believe he was a shop steward for UNISON when at RMBC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not forgetting some of those in positions of authority on local councils and such like will have been indoctrinated in left wing idoligy wile at university i believe this was instremental in a lot of the cover ups in Rotherhams CSE cases were you had one of the main culprits a Gordon Jelly who was an active member of the socialist workers party.https://libertygb.org.uk/news/gordon-jelley-swps-rotherham-social-worker-muslim-sex-grooming-gangs He strikes me as "the nut job's nut job" ! Horrible arrogant piece of work by the sound of things I also am led to believe he was a shop steward for UNISON when at RMBC. When I was involved in local government unions, back in the late 80s, the SWP was dominant. I met some proper swivel eyed loons, I can tell you ! Sad to see they still seem to be around........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not forgetting some of those in positions of authority on local councils and such like will have been indoctrinated in left wing idoligy wile at university i believe this was instremental in a lot of the cover ups in Rotherhams CSE cases were you had one of the main culprits a Gordon Jelly who was an active member of the socialist workers party.https://libertygb.org.uk/news/gordon-jelley-swps-rotherham-social-worker-muslim-sex-grooming-gangsI agree with that, since lecturers are often leftie liberals who influence their students into the same way of thinking. Then they get into positions of power in local government, the police and the media, further pushing their left wing politically correct agenda. Remember Common Purpose: http://www.cpexposed.com/ If you really think there's going to be a civil war in the future, try and join the Army Reserves to get some infantry training, keep yourself in shape, and wait 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 We need a new sub-species of Homo sapiens for these sorts...... Can I suggest "Gutterscum Abhorrentis". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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