CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Wilder Calling people out when he knows they can't fight him again lol don't worry his turn comes next year hopefully we beat him on USA soil 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Looks like it's going be Ortiz next ?? I hope so ...AJ the south paw destroyer vs Ortiz the dangerous skilled counter fighter ...I think its a good fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mito1223 20 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Wilder needs to actually fight someone half decent before trying to jump in the ring with the big boys - but his team know he'd get found out so can't risk missing out on the pay day. Haye Vs Wilder would of been funny, reckon Haye could have taken him out pretty quickly. Feel sorry for Ortiz, one of the best HW's atm and struggling for a big fight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,258 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Hes got a fight on his hands now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 i feel sorry for Ortiz, one of the best HW's atm and struggling for a big fight. I feel the same ...ortiz has made some bad decisions out of the the ring and been led up the garden path on a few occasions it would be a real shame if we never get to see his full potential but as they say time waits for no man . http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10973286/joshua-wba-order-anthony-joshua-to-defend-title-against-luis-ortiz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Pulev will be be the easier fight for AJ rather than him facing Ortiz?No pity for Ortiz he is a convicted drug cheat who was fined and banned for 8 month after his win over Kayode. How does Wilder get away without fighting his mandatory,his promoters did everything to get out of both Povetkin fights saying he had failed drug tests etc but he never failed any. Wilders resume up to his title shot with Stiverne then his fights since as champion are a joke. Edited August 4, 2017 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Pulev will be be the easier fight for AJ rather than him facing Ortiz?No pity for Ortiz he is a convicted drug cheat who was fined and banned for 8 month after his win over Kayode. How does Wilder get away without fighting his mandatory,his promoters did everything to get out of both Povetkin fights saying he had failed drug tests etc but he never failed any. Wilders resume up to his title shot with Stiverne then his fights since as champion are a joke. I think its widely accepted that there's a lot of the big boys on the juice at some point there's plenty of question marks over AJ regarding that... ortiz is part of the clean boxing program now so deserves a second chance imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Watching Ortiz last few fights I don't rate him at all.... looked shit... just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Watching Ortiz last few fights I don't rate him at all.... looked shit... just my opinion Last two fights were appalling granted Scott just didn't want to fight and Allen wasn't worth risking anything for I don't think his heart was in it after being played by Hearn like I said above lots of bad decisions 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Still... loooking at his last few you wouldn't fancy his chances... he's knocked bums out on his way up like any other fighter...and he gets hype I don't rate him.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imo Cubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shaken 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imo Cubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenDillian whyte beats ortiz imoLook I agree there's question marks over ortiz all the more reason for a big fight ...I rate whyte I'd like to see a AJ whyte rematch and I'm sure we will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imoCubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,703 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imo Cubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at allYet looked fantastic against Jennings I believe Mike tyson rates Jennings as the most skilful heavyweight out there and Ortiz schooled him ....it's all horses for courses mate only one way to find ....a quote from jennings that made me laugh when jenning was asked was ortiz a big hitter he said " no not really but when Ortiz taps you he knocks you the fek out" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imoCubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at all Kevin Johnson took a dive for a big pay check that's the real news everyone knows now he even never bothered training or wasting money on a training camp plus the announcer made a point of saying he's never been stopped a few times hint hint lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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