tilimangro 1,013 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Here's the point It's when you have an option and you don't take It When I used to do it it was because I had no other option But to stress an animal out for hours and then not stun it when i could have is barbaric It's the fact that you could stun but don't That's not hypocrisy I never had that option when l was legally running deer with dogs If I did I would have taken it But I didn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) Here's the point It's when you have an option and you don't take It When I used to do it it was because I had no other option But to stress an animal out for hours and then not stun it when i could have is barbaric It's the fact that you could stun but don't That's not hypocrisy I never had that option when l was legally running deer with dogs If I did I would have taken it But I didn't Did you have the option not to hunt? I hope I'm not trolling you & I'm not defending halal, because I really couldn't give a shit either way, but you call ginger a moron, but then put up a flimsy argument at best...haha. Surely you had the option not to run deer with dogs? A better argument, if you wanted deer meat, would be the 'option' of using a firearm, rather than course a deer across two fields with a lurcher, then dispatch it by cutting it throat. I'd prefer the latter, but then I'm not the one shouting about 'options' ;-) Edited July 26, 2017 by Accip74 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Dont see an issue with it Maybe the cctvs could pick up how barbaric halal slaughter really is My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 It's not only halal needs watching .There are some right unstable c**ts working in slaughterhouses . 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Here's the point It's when you have an option and you don't take It When I used to do it it was because I had no other option But to stress an animal out for hours and then not stun it when i could have is barbaric It's the fact that you could stun but don't That's not hypocrisy I never had that option when l was legally running deer with dogs If I did I would have taken it But I didn't Did you have the option not to hunt? I hope I'm not trolling you & I'm not defending halal, because I really couldn't give a shit either way, but you call ginger a moron, but then put up a flimsy argument at best...haha. Surely you had the option not to run deer with dogs? A better argument, if you wanted deer meat, would be the 'option' of using a firearm, rather than course a deer across two fields with a lurcher, then dispatch it by cutting it throat. I'd prefer the latter, but then I'm not the one shouting about 'options' ;-) I'm also not shoutingI was also not breaking any laws And tbh I'm not overly interested in debating this Imagine we change that to road traffic accident I would and have dispatched deer that people have hit and not bothered to stop and see if it's dead No option of stunning But I'm not barbaric for putting it out of its misery Watch a few halal slaughter videos See if you'd rather have the chance of running away from a dog back on the day Or the way it's done on massive scale for absolutely no reason Halal isn't compulsory to Islam/muslims They can eat meat slaughtered our way and say a prayer to cleanse it But we've bent over backwards to allow this on a massive scale We imported 5000 Pakistani butchers to keep up with the demands argument is remotely flimsy I'm saying if you have a choice of stunning in an abbatoir you'd be a sick person not to use it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 No more or no less unstable than people who work in tesco or the post office. That's probaly the stupidest thing i have read! And you who claim to be pretty smart and well educated. I think a few in here just like to argue for arguments sake. They could @least have the odd day off! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 95% of the THL experts have not go a clue about Halal and Kosher what is permitted and what is not or how to despatch any live stock other than eating Mac D,s or KFC. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 95% of the THL experts have not go a clue about Halal and Kosher what is permitted and what is not or how to despatch any live stock other than eating Mac D,s or KFC. Then why don't you take this opportunity to enlighten us ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 380 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 maybe a daft question and of topic but has anyone petitioned for cctv in old folks homes. WHO decides what is cruel and what's not .When working on the f&m outbreak half way thru we where instructed to stop the lads from tail twisting the beasts when trying to get them into the crush but the use of a stick was ok and we also had vets on site. We kill animals to eat could this be the real issue driven by vegans and the public who have no idea of how the meat gets to the table.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Here's the point It's when you have an option and you don't take It When I used to do it it was because I had no other option But to stress an animal out for hours and then not stun it when i could have is barbaric It's the fact that you could stun but don't That's not hypocrisy I never had that option when l was legally running deer with dogs If I did I would have taken it But I didn't Did you have the option not to hunt?I hope I'm not trolling you & I'm not defending halal, because I really couldn't give a shit either way, but you call ginger a moron, but then put up a flimsy argument at best...haha. Surely you had the option not to run deer with dogs? A better argument, if you wanted deer meat, would be the 'option' of using a firearm, rather than course a deer across two fields with a lurcher, then dispatch it by cutting it throat. I'd prefer the latter, but then I'm not the one shouting about 'options' ;-) I'm also not shoutingI was also not breaking any laws And tbh I'm not overly interested in debating this Imagine we change that to road traffic accident I would and have dispatched deer that people have hit and not bothered to stop and see if it's dead No option of stunning But I'm not barbaric for putting it out of its misery Watch a few halal slaughter videos See if you'd rather have the chance of running away from a dog back on the day Or the way it's done on massive scale for absolutely no reason Halal isn't compulsory to Islam/muslims They can eat meat slaughtered our way and say a prayer to cleanse it But we've bent over backwards to allow this on a massive scale We imported 5000 Pakistani butchers to keep up with the demands argument is remotely flimsy I'm saying if you have a choice of stunning in an abbatoir you'd be a sick person not to use it I'm not arsed to debate it either mate, just pointing out we have options as well. Nobody makes us hunt for enjoyment, which is my only reason really & many think I'm sick for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 There was a period I would argue I wasn't hunting for enjoyment But to keep food on the table Those days are gone for now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 There was a period I would argue I wasn't hunting for enjoyment But to keep food on the table Those days are gone for now Well I'm not going dispute that, me personally? the occasional meal is just a by-product of my enjoyment........but that's another debate I suppose ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Fair enough imo heard some horror stories from mates that worked in one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,395 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 One of the most ridiculous ways of slaughtering an animal I have ever seen, was on telly on that Zimmerman show (I think) and involved a camel. I'll see if I can find a clip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,395 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 23:03 onwards Not the greatest advert for Halal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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