stumfelter 3,034 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Isn't there a medical condition where sufferers have no empathy with other peoples suffering? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Isn't there a medical condition where sufferers have no empathy with other peoples suffering? Several but I'm not a doctor! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,274 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Isn't there a medical condition where sufferers have no empathy with other peoples suffering? possibly & also personality disorders Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Im reading this and really trying not to reply the way I want to,for ive a sister thats clinically depressed,schizophrenic, and just down right messed up since she reached 23....before that...a perfectly healthy ,happy but somewhat shy young girl..What happened after that Im just not sure anymore..Time has turned the memory rather hazy,as I was 16 at the time and busy doing foolish immature shite...She was a very talented Classical guitarist,a brilliant church/cathederial organist and a highly intelligent person..and then she had a so called ''BREAKDOWN''...entered a pychiatric hospital and entered ''THE SYSTEM''....never to return to normality....from then on we all sat up and took notice,but returning to a half ''normal'' life was never to be...if any of you people who doubt that depression is a real illness you should have lived our life for a period,for my parents especially it was HELL ON EARTH...highly upsetting embarrasing public episodes and holidays away cancelled due to the anxieties my sister suffered...the turmoil of a family member dissapearing for days without her medication,leaving us all searching and fearing the worst is nothing id wish on anyone..so without going into any of the many many desperate times my parents went through as did we all,Id like to say to any doubters ,DEPRESSION IS A VERY REAL ILLNESS AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOU NEVER HAD IT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU AND YOURS...and as it has been said allready,its quiet understandable that those that have not will NEVER understand what its all about ,,, 18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,274 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4725380/The-worst-things-depression.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,004 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Im reading this and really trying not to reply the way I want to,for ive a sister thats clinically depressed,schizophrenic, and just down right messed up since she reached 23....before that...a perfectly healthy ,happy but somewhat shy young girl..What happened after that Im just not sure anymore..Time has turned the memory rather hazy,as I was 16 at the time and busy doing foolish immature shite...She was a very talented Classical guitarist,a brilliant church/cathederial organist and a highly intelligent person..and then she had a so called ''BREAKDOWN''...entered a pychiatric hospital and entered ''THE SYSTEM''....never to return to normality....from then on we all sat up and took notice,but returning to a half ''normal'' life was never to be...if any of you people who doubt that depression is a real illness you should have lived our life for a period,for my parents especially it was HELL ON EARTH...highly upsetting embarrasing public episodes and holidays away cancelled due to the anxieties my sister suffered...the turmoil of a family member dissapearing for days without her medication,leaving us all searching and fearing the worst is nothing id wish on anyone..so without going into any of the many many desperate times my parents went through as did we all,Id like to say to any doubters ,DEPRESSION IS A VERY REAL ILLNESS AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOU NEVER HAD IT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU AND YOURS...and as it has been said allready,its quiet understandable that those that have not will NEVER understand what its all about ,,, just read your thread above, and sounds like you all suffered , not just your sister, sad to read mate. when i was working at my local brewery , i worked with a bloke who was a (manic depressive ) i worked with him for 10 years, and he was a type of person that never really smiled , and always had a bleak out look to life . i used to go mad at him some days, and told him to get a grip and snap out of it. But he never did change in 10 years, i did feel sorry for him really , as he just could never be happy with life . it is a illness deff , i get low alot with bad back ive had since the 80s , but i try not to let it beat me, pain or no pain , you got to fight it because everything comes from your brain good and bad , and depression is a bad just like pain is .you got to both fight it if you can, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4725380/The-worst-things-depression.html Incredibly the Daily Mail actually has something worth reading! Good link Waz! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Im reading this and really trying not to reply the way I want to,for ive a sister thats clinically depressed,schizophrenic, and just down right messed up since she reached 23....before that...a perfectly healthy ,happy but somewhat shy young girl..What happened after that Im just not sure anymore..Time has turned the memory rather hazy,as I was 16 at the time and busy doing foolish immature shite...She was a very talented Classical guitarist,a brilliant church/cathederial organist and a highly intelligent person..and then she had a so called ''BREAKDOWN''...entered a pychiatric hospital and entered ''THE SYSTEM''....never to return to normality....from then on we all sat up and took notice,but returning to a half ''normal'' life was never to be...if any of you people who doubt that depression is a real illness you should have lived our life for a period,for my parents especially it was HELL ON EARTH...highly upsetting embarrasing public episodes and holidays away cancelled due to the anxieties my sister suffered...the turmoil of a family member dissapearing for days without her medication,leaving us all searching and fearing the worst is nothing id wish on anyone..so without going into any of the many many desperate times my parents went through as did we all,Id like to say to any doubters ,DEPRESSION IS A VERY REAL ILLNESS AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOU NEVER HAD IT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU AND YOURS...and as it has been said allready,its quiet understandable that those that have not will NEVER understand what its all about ,,, just read your thread above, and sounds like you all suffered , not just your sister, sad to read mate. when i was working at my local brewery , i worked with a bloke who was a (manic depressive ) i worked with him for 10 years, and he was a type of person that never really smiled , and always had a bleak out look to life . i used to go mad at him some days, and told him to get a grip and snap out of it. But he never did change in 10 years, i did feel sorry for him really , as he just could never be happy with life . it is a illness deff , i get low alot with bad back ive had since the 80s , but i try not to let it beat me, pain or no pain , you got to fight it because everything comes from your brain good and bad , and depression is a bad just like pain is .you got to both fight it if you can, thats the thinking of a rational man.......those who suffer from deep depression dont have rational thoughts ,theres very little if no light at the end of the tunnel,,in fact,theres no tunnel,its a sad state to observe from the perimiters,but with support of friends and most importantly a sympathetic circle of friends/family ,you can make good of a very bad situation... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,928 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Im reading this and really trying not to reply the way I want to,for ive a sister thats clinically depressed,schizophrenic, and just down right messed up since she reached 23....before that...a perfectly healthy ,happy but somewhat shy young girl..What happened after that Im just not sure anymore..Time has turned the memory rather hazy,as I was 16 at the time and busy doing foolish immature shite...She was a very talented Classical guitarist,a brilliant church/cathederial organist and a highly intelligent person..and then she had a so called ''BREAKDOWN''...entered a pychiatric hospital and entered ''THE SYSTEM''....never to return to normality....from then on we all sat up and took notice,but returning to a half ''normal'' life was never to be...if any of you people who doubt that depression is a real illness you should have lived our life for a period,for my parents especially it was HELL ON EARTH...highly upsetting embarrasing public episodes and holidays away cancelled due to the anxieties my sister suffered...the turmoil of a family member dissapearing for days without her medication,leaving us all searching and fearing the worst is nothing id wish on anyone..so without going into any of the many many desperate times my parents went through as did we all,Id like to say to any doubters ,DEPRESSION IS A VERY REAL ILLNESS AND THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOU NEVER HAD IT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU AND YOURS...and as it has been said allready,its quiet understandable that those that have not will NEVER understand what its all about ,,, Panorama tonight . ..prescription for murder questioning wether prescription anti depressants can cause psychopathic symptoms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,264 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Course they can. Everyone knows once you take them tablets your finished.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Tough thread. I suppose things are better understood if we find the causes of all these conditions that plague people in society today. Without a doubt people do suffer from various illnesses, diseases and mental disorders, but thing is certain....all things are either self inflicted, man made or the result of generations of people having confidence in the medical field. If you think that some people just happen to suffer from certain conditions for absolutely no logical reason... then you are incorrect, there is always a reason and it almost always begins with the local drug dealer.. sorry I mean local GP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,966 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Have to agree neo a friend went to his gp about his insomnia, gp prescribed sleeping tablets which didn't help, back to the gp who said there must be deeper issues and prescribed him with anti depressants lol. He took one and said he walked about for four hours like a zombie. He binned the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Agreed - pills won't sort a psychological problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Agreed - pills won't sort a psychological problem. no they wont cure anyone,but they sure help ....their an essential tool in creating a balance for most folk suffering from depresson...you need to see someone who has severe depression WITH and WITHOUTH their meds,,,the difference is vast and not always in a bad way..its getting the right mix and balance of meds that helps someone function to the best of their ability,,,the doctors /psychologists dont always get it right either 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Most of these meds they prescribe for depression /behaviour problems is basically the chemical cosh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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