johnny.w 316 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tough thread. I suppose things are better understood if we find the causes of all these conditions that plague people in society today. Without a doubt people do suffer from various illnesses, diseases and mental disorders, but thing is certain....all things are either self inflicted, man made or the result of generations of people having confidence in the medical field. If you think that some people just happen to suffer from certain conditions for absolutely no logical reason... then you are incorrect, there is always a reason and it almost always begins with the local drug dealer.. sorry I mean local GP. Are you implying all mental conditions are "self-inflicted" or caused by doctors? That's a crazy thing to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Most of these meds they prescribe for depression /behaviour problems is basically the chemical cosh!and most the side affects are suaidal thoughts.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tough thread. I suppose things are better understood if we find the causes of all these conditions that plague people in society today. Without a doubt people do suffer from various illnesses, diseases and mental disorders, but thing is certain....all things are either self inflicted, man made or the result of generations of people having confidence in the medical field. If you think that some people just happen to suffer from certain conditions for absolutely no logical reason... then you are incorrect, there is always a reason and it almost always begins with the local drug dealer.. sorry I mean local GP. Are you implying all mental conditions are "self-inflicted" or caused by doctors? That's a crazy thing to say. I'm implying that there is always a reason for things happening in life. To find out what that is or to be interested in finding out, is a real step closer to solving such conditions. To think that generations of mother's father's and children have religiously taken all forms of medicines and drugs that have been prescribed to them, that this will have little or no effect on generations to come is really burying your intelligence in the sand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny.w 316 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tough thread. I suppose things are better understood if we find the causes of all these conditions that plague people in society today. Without a doubt people do suffer from various illnesses, diseases and mental disorders, but thing is certain....all things are either self inflicted, man made or the result of generations of people having confidence in the medical field. If you think that some people just happen to suffer from certain conditions for absolutely no logical reason... then you are incorrect, there is always a reason and it almost always begins with the local drug dealer.. sorry I mean local GP. Are you implying all mental conditions are "self-inflicted" or caused by doctors? That's a crazy thing to say. I'm implying that there is always a reason for things happening in life. To find out what that is or to be interested in finding out, is a real step closer to solving such conditions. To think that generations of mother's father's and children have religiously taken all forms of medicines and drugs that have been prescribed to them, that this will have little or no effect on generations to come is really burying your intelligence in the sand. I don't disagree with that to a point as I don't believe doctor knows best all of the time. Most things happen for a reason, but to say that "all" things are self-inflicted or because of doctors is nonsensical. At least to me it is. Take a soldier with PTSD for example. Is he suffering because it's self-inflicted, because of drugs he or his parents took or simply because of his experiences? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I had a decent upbringing and I been getting help the past few months ..I been waking up and wanting to die every morning I woke up..No reason..I don't want to die but sometimes my mind tells me diverentnt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Since teenage years.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I had a decent upbringing and I been getting help the past few months ..I been waking up and wanting to die every morning I woke up..No reason..I don't want to die but sometimes my mind tells me diverentntSorry to hear that mate but fair play for getting help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tough thread. I suppose things are better understood if we find the causes of all these conditions that plague people in society today. Without a doubt people do suffer from various illnesses, diseases and mental disorders, but thing is certain....all things are either self inflicted, man made or the result of generations of people having confidence in the medical field. If you think that some people just happen to suffer from certain conditions for absolutely no logical reason... then you are incorrect, there is always a reason and it almost always begins with the local drug dealer.. sorry I mean local GP. Are you implying all mental conditions are "self-inflicted" or caused by doctors? That's a crazy thing to say. I'm implying that there is always a reason for things happening in life. To find out what that is or to be interested in finding out, is a real step closer to solving such conditions. To think that generations of mother's father's and children have religiously taken all forms of medicines and drugs that have been prescribed to them, that this will have little or no effect on generations to come is really burying your intelligence in the sand. I don't disagree with that to a point as I don't believe doctor knows best all of the time. Most things happen for a reason, but to say that "all" things are self-inflicted or because of doctors is nonsensical. At least to me it is. Take a soldier with PTSD for example. Is he suffering because it's self-inflicted, because of drugs he or his parents took or simply because of his experiences? All things happen for a reason. Regarding the soldier, in that case of course it's due to his experiences which therefore must clearly be an unnatural environment for a human to be in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I had a decent upbringing and I been getting help the past few months ..I been waking up and wanting to die every morning I woke up..No reason..I don't want to die but sometimes my mind tells me diverentntSorry to hear that mate but fair play for getting helpI won't make old bones mate..It's me or someone else.i rather it be me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Too many blokes refuse to seek help because "it's not what blokes do". I myself am one...i won't go to a doctor unless i really have to and even then it's cos the missus is giving me ball ache and won't drop the subject. Knowing blokes can be like that it doesn't surprise me that suicide is a big problem among men...as i said tb25, fair play for trying to sort your problems 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Too many blokes refuse to seek help because "it's not what blokes do". I myself am one...i won't go to a doctor unless i really have to and even then it's cos the missus is giving me ball ache and won't drop the subject. Knowing blokes can be like that it doesn't surprise me that suicide is a big problem among men...as i said tb25, fair play for trying to sort your problems mate they have labeled me with about 7 things lol.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Too many blokes refuse to seek help because "it's not what blokes do". I myself am one...i won't go to a doctor unless i really have to and even then it's cos the missus is giving me ball ache and won't drop the subject. Knowing blokes can be like that it doesn't surprise me that suicide is a big problem among men...as i said tb25, fair play for trying to sort your problems mate they have labeled me with about 7 things lol..Bloody hell!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I just put in down as not being a people person..lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,575 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Been their once Mrs got me to quack's gave me sertraline to take didn't want it but took it more for family than me and glad I did took about 3 months before my surroundings lightened up, I was 48 then never suffered depression before that always saw it as weak minded. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Been their once Mrs got me to quack's gave me sertraline to take didn't want it but took it more for family than me and glad I did took about 3 months before my surroundings lightened up, I was 48 i got then never suffered depression before that always saw it as weak minded. Atb i got giving that..Stopped it made me feel like I was on speed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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