Jonjon79 13,358 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 If you do not have FAC I am not sure what the law is. When the rifle is taken for a service that it will not have to be reported and confiscated Lee.m others here will be more knowledgeable with the advise. All the very best in possesion of a firearm without a licence chargable offence I did not want to say it out loud All the very best It's true enough ...... to the letter of the law. But, in all honesty, unless you do something with it that attracts the polices attention, 1ftlb over (that you're trying to deal with) isn't going to be a major issue. Unless you're shooting peoples pets or cars etc, they have more to worry about than your pellet gun. You did the right thing by getting it tested and, you're doing the right thing by looking to have it correct - this shows you to be a responsible air rifle owner Don't sweat it mate. Be careful with it for now and, get it sorted as soon as you can. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Do not want to say to much again but if it went to the shop as FAC and came back out as FAC . Something Wrong there to my mind. But then my interpretation of the law could be total wrong.All the very best Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,796 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Do not want to say to much again but if it went to the shop as FAC and came back out as FAC . Something Wrong there to my mind. But then my interpretation of the law could be total wrong. All the very best If you do not have a fac cert then by law the rfd should not have given it back as there supposed to confiscate it if its over 12 by any margin its a fire arm and you will find your self in deep sh*t if plod do check it . atvbjimmy :thumbs: 3 Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 12 ft/lb or 13 ft/lb. Only a small amount, but one is an airgun and one is a firearm. The law won't distinguish between 12.1 or 121.1 ft'lbs and being unlawfully in possession isn't something you want to get involved with. I don't understand what these anti-tamper things are for if they don't stop you tampering. Get a shop to do it for your own peace of mind. Quote Link to post
Lee.m 142 Posted July 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Rifle is going to air rifle tech he is still in business just spoken to him sometimes next week full service and repair 1 Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 12 ft/lb or 13 ft/lb. Only a small amount, but one is an airgun and one is a firearm. The law won't distinguish between 12.1 or 121.1 ft'lbs and being unlawfully in possession isn't something you want to get involved with. I don't understand what these anti-tamper things are for if they don't stop you tampering. Get a shop to do it for your own peace of mind. That is the point about the law walshie. No law against tampering with the anti tamper as long as it stays within the legal limit, one will more than likely be looked at with suspicion and given a hard time if looked at but not broken any law to my knowledge. But taking a rifle in ones possession as FAC to any RFD with out any FAC licence then that is totally different. Yes? All the very best Edited July 8, 2017 by just-A-snap Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Rifle is going to air rifle tech he is still in business just spoken to him sometimes next week full service and repair Good luck and all the very best mate. Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 12 ft/lb or 13 ft/lb. Only a small amount, but one is an airgun and one is a firearm. The law won't distinguish between 12.1 or 121.1 ft'lbs and being unlawfully in possession isn't something you want to get involved with. I don't understand what these anti-tamper things are for if they don't stop you tampering. Get a shop to do it for your own peace of mind. That is the point about the law walshie. No law against tampering with the anti tamper as long as it stays within the legal limit, one will more than likely be looked at with suspicion and given a hard time if looked at but not broken any law to my knowledge. But taking a rifle in ones possession as FAC to any RFD with out any FAC licence then that is totally different. Yes? All the very best The law is black and white. A gun can't be "a bit FAC". It either is or it isn't. If the anti-tamper has been tampered with but the gun is still below 12 ft/lbs it's still legal, but surely the very name anti-tamper should mean that it can't be tampered with? Equally if it hasn't been tampered with but is above the limit it's illegal. If an RFD knows a gun is over 12, he legally can't let you have it back until it's sorted. In theory at least. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 12 ft/lb or 13 ft/lb. Only a small amount, but one is an airgun and one is a firearm. The law won't distinguish between 12.1 or 121.1 ft'lbs and being unlawfully in possession isn't something you want to get involved with. I don't understand what these anti-tamper things are for if they don't stop you tampering. Get a shop to do it for your own peace of mind. That is the point about the law walshie. No law against tampering with the anti tamper as long as it stays within the legal limit, one will more than likely be looked at with suspicion and given a hard time if looked at but not broken any law to my knowledge. But taking a rifle in ones possession as FAC to any RFD with out any FAC licence then that is totally different. Yes? All the very best The law is black and white. A gun can't be "a bit FAC". It either is or it isn't. If the anti-tamper has been tampered with but the gun is still below 12 ft/lbs it's still legal, but surely the very name anti-tamper should mean that it can't be tampered with? Equally if it hasn't been tampered with but is above the limit it's illegal. If an RFD knows a gun is over 12, he legally can't let you have it back until it's sorted. In theory at least. Anti tamper is not required by law to the best of my knowledge walshie, it is just something some manufacturers put on to cover themselves. if I am wrong i stand corrected with my apologies. All the very best Quote Link to post
Greyman 28,525 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I believe AT was pushed onto airgun manufacturers by the government as it was to easy for the idiots to just crank up the power and shoot at pets and anything else that moves from further away, on the down side when a decent law abiding person finds there gun point one of a pound over they are left with this silly situation, it's another poorly thought out knee jerk reaction by the powers that be, also truth be told the police can't even afford to test your rifle unless you first commit an offence, so just be good, be safe and you will never need to explain why your gun is slightly over, 2 Quote Link to post
Lee.m 142 Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Will sorted next week as I've said I have not had any work done to this rifle I've had it for about 3yrs so thought I would get it chronographed and it's come out over but as I say will be done next week until then will have to use my sons ultra (3mths old) ps was thinking of having scorpion regulated has anyone had this done Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) I believe AT was pushed onto airgun manufacturers by the government as it was to easy for the idiots to just crank up the power and shoot at pets and anything else that moves from further away, on the down side when a decent law abiding person finds there gun point one of a pound over they are left with this silly situation, it's another poorly thought out knee jerk reaction by the powers that be, also truth be told the police can't even afford to test your rifle unless you first commit an offence, so just be good, be safe and you will never need to explain why your gun is slightly over, Anti tamper is not a legal requirement in the UK P.S All the very best Greyman Edited July 9, 2017 by just-A-snap 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,481 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 But you would of thought when it was in the shop they could of offered to fix it 1 Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 But you would of thought when it was in the shop they could of offered to fix it The point is it was allowed to leave the shop in the first place The one All the very best Quote Link to post
Lee.m 142 Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) No they didn't just gave me the rifle back and I took it home as I have said it's being sorted this week Edited July 10, 2017 by Lee.m 1 Quote Link to post
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