Pirate 9000 676 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 The rights of criminals will always override the rights of the citizen. If it didn't, then their would be law and order that would have a positive and stable effect on society. That is something that the powers that be cannot afford to happen. There is no justice to be found when peace and justice offers no monetary reward. Disorder is the only way to rule the people. Elementary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 This was from 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061 I know Rotherham victims are going to increase I was referring to the breaking scandal of child abuse in the MOD cadets. Rotherham is a bit of a smokescreen, that doesn't have a huge population of certain people, imagine if the spotlight was shinned more brightly on Luton or Bradford? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate 9000 676 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 You a probably right all we can hope for is one day a political party will come along and Carey out the will of the people and not just line there own packets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 The rights of criminals will always override the rights of the citizen. Surely the criminal is the only one that tests the system? If they demand their rights, in court, but the general public stand and watch as their rights are eroded, who exactly is the one at fault? Rotherham is a bit of a smokescreen, that doesn't have a huge population of certain people, imagine if the spotlight was shinned more brightly on Luton or Bradford? In the case of widespread child-molestation, by grooming gangs, I would sincerely hope that spotlight is shone wherever it's necessary. Luton, Bradford, Rochdale, Rotherham, and the MOD in this recent case. If the local authorities, police, and the home office, are negligent in their duty it should be shone upon them as well. These crimes transcend 'certain people' and if they're diddling kids they should be hauled over the coals. If their [public sector] incompetence is hindering these investigations, either maliciously or through shoddy work, then they should be removed from the positions and punished accordingly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 You're very trusting Chris....this was highlighted two decades ago and nothing was done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) You're very trusting Chris....this was highlighted two decades ago and nothing was done. Not really Nik. I understand how money and power go together. When were the MOD cases first highlighted? These cases that are being currently prosecuted, they're only splattered on the news because the perpetrators don't have the money/influence to make it go away. There's a lot of people, today, that still call bullshit on Bryn Estyn, which shows how deep that ran. Saville was prosecuted posthumously. His cult of personality allowed him to rape with impunity. Gadd only got caught because PC world do a better job at investigating than Bristol police did... What surprises me is the lack of public fucks given. Sure we all shake our heads in horror, at the crimes committed but no one is marching in the streets are they? Edited July 9, 2017 by ChrisJones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 "What surprises me is the lack of public fucks given. Sure we all shake our heads in horror, at the crimes committed but no one is marching in the streets are they? :hmm:" Actually there are people protesting but they're being labelled as bigots or racists 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Actually there are people protesting but they're being labelled as bigots or racists From the YouTube clips posted on here, it seems to be more protests about religious practice than crimes committed? Saville was white. Gadd is white. Harris a white immigrant. The perpetrators at Bryn Estyn were white. The establishment involved in this MOD scandal are white also... This isn't about melanin in the skin this is about abusing kids. We can get 400,000 people out, in Parliament Sq, when the hunting ban was announced but only a few hundred EDL to protest what could be considered institutionalized child abuse? These sickening crimes are being perpetrated across the country but it seems we only want to discuss them in a certain context. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Actually there are people protesting but they're being labelled as bigots or racists From the YouTube clips posted on here, it seems to be more protests about religious practice than crimes committed? Saville was white. Gadd is white. Harris a white immigrant. The perpetrators at Bryn Estyn were white. The establishment involved in this MOD scandal are white also... This isn't about melanin in the skin this is about abusing kids. We can get 400,000 people out, in Parliament Sq, when the hunting ban was announced but only a few hundred EDL to protest what could be considered institutionalized child abuse? These sickening crimes are being perpetrated across the country but it seems we only want to discuss them in a certain context. You're also falling into that trapThe scale and size of the Rotherham and other grooming gangs eclipses all the other ones you've mentioned Because it's done by brown men with brown skins you assume it's about the colour of their skin It plays a part In as much as they feel it's acceptable to do it to white children You say potato A Paeadofile is the same regardless of pigment but these grooming gangs victims numbers are huge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 You're also falling into that trap The scale and size of the Rotherham and other grooming gangs eclipses all the other ones you've mentioned Because it's done by brown men with brown skins you assume it's about the colour of their skin It plays a part In as much as they feel it's acceptable to do it to white children You say potato A Paeadofile is the same regardless of pigment but these grooming gangs victims numbers are huge I fully understand that paedophilia transcends skin colour, but that is rarely mentioned on this forum. It's not an attempt to give one case presidence, over another, it's that if you only consider skin colour a factor then you're only getting part of the puzzle. It's nothing to do with skin and everything to do with not seeing anything wrong with abusing kids. We know of some of the white kids that have been abused but do you honestly believe that it's limited to skin colour on their part? Paedos are wired wrong. They find absolutely nothing wrong with abusing kids. They understand that society finds it abhorrent but they disagree with that opinion. They gravitate towards vulnerable kids and hide themselves in plain sight. They select certain kids then abuse them. The common denominator in all of these circumstances is vulnerable children. We're free to point the finger but only pointing at brown men, with brown skins, we miss the other predators. We should be focusing on how to prevent these children are being targeted in the first place, and how we stop these people infiltrating organisations where they can do as they please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I think there are a lot of them in powerful positions,remember being 13-20ish and being incredibly motivated to go to the gym and make some money because you thought that'd get you women? They must have that same motivation,but they know they don't need a nice car,clothes or a 6 pack,they need to be a judge, high ranking police officer or in some other powerful position to get away with what they plan. A lot of these Asian groomers probably aren't paedophiles in the true sense of the word,they just live a community that thinks abusing confused underage girls is acceptable,so those who are inclined to do it,do it with impunity. But they're 2 different problems imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I agree with that. The ones that are still unpunished are better suited to hiding through status, or wealth. What we're seeing, prosecuted, is the low hanging fruit. Any aspect of society that thinks it's okay to abuse underage kids are paedos by definition. Personally I don't think it's two seperate problems, but opposite sides of the same coin. You've got that way of thinking but you're in a part of society that doesn't necessarily see it for what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,499 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 another massive cover up http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40457123 was that the one in keithley oxford halifax oldaham rochdale rotherham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,802 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Scum labour have a lot to answer for like the c@nt called Dennis McShame in this link.https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2017/07/09/what-did-the-imams-really-say/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I am gobsmacked that anyone can compare 360 alleged 'abuse victims' of the MOD to a racial and religiously motivated and targeted attacked on hundreds of thousands of girls over 20+ years. I hope those few people on this forum that keep trolling normal people get a taste of diversity one day....you know who you are and you are sick in the head 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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