Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Resources are finite is it right that a child with no hope should be using those resources when a child with hope could be using them I don't think so ... someone has to draw a line . It seems like this argument's coming up more and more often,I've heard it said about fat people and people who drink too much in the last couple of days. 'But what impact will it have on the NHS?',as if it's some sort of holy grail. The lad's parents have raised the funds,so it doesn't effect anyone else. But people who smoke drink or who are over weight have hope this child didn't have any hope Even if the American surgery was successfull there would still be no quality of life for the kid...I'm the son of a knackers yard man maybe I have a knackers yard mentality but that's how I see it . That's a different argument,and a decision best left for the parents imo. It's one thing the NHS refusing treatment to a lost cause,quite another for them to take you to court and not allow you to get better treatment elsewhere. Absolutely correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused. your still so blind that you don`t see whats in front or your own eyes, the courts brought over the yank who offered a miracle cure, he looked at the case and agreed that there is no hope of any improvement, stop being a twat and look at the court transcripts rather than f***ing newspapers and you might see what are actual facts on the case, I hope that you are never left alone to look after any sort of animal as you come across as the deluded type who would even suck the piss out of a dog rather than accept the fact that eternal sleep is the kindest option 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Obv the drs and specialists felt dragging a very terminal infant half way across the world would cause it more suffering and probaly not even survive the flight. I will also bet the decision was made by more than one dr and the courts would have had all the facts and testimony from the specialists. As has been said they didn't stop the parents out of spite they had the babies best interests at heart! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 cases like this are taken to the court not to ask for permission to withdraw treatment, only to avoid court action at a later date, bit like the old hangman had to appear in court after every hanging had to be ruled as a legal death, too much is made of cases like this in the name of selling more headlines so who are the twats, the doctors who do everything they can or the lawyers and newspaper editors who see the front page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused. your still so blind that you don`t see whats in front or your own eyes, the courts brought over the yank who offered a miracle cure, he looked at the case and agreed that there is no hope of any improvement, stop being a twat and look at the court transcripts rather than f***ing newspapers and you might see what are actual facts on the case, I hope that you are never left alone to look after any sort of animal as you come across as the deluded type who would even suck the piss out of a dog rather than accept the fact that eternal sleep is the kindest option No comment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused.your still so blind that you don`t see whats in front or your own eyes, the courts brought over the yank who offered a miracle cure, he looked at the case and agreed that there is no hope of any improvement, stop being a twat and look at the court transcripts rather than f***ing newspapers and you might see what are actual facts on the case, I hope that you are never left alone to look after any sort of animal as you come across as the deluded type who would even suck the piss out of a dog rather than accept the fact that eternal sleep is the kindest option No comment no comment, your a f***ing deluded idiot, what are you, a troll, are you some sort of animal rights activist who scrolls through this site looking for things to stick your comments on or are you some sort of religious fuckwit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Twat, deluded type? When the name calling begins its always clear who is struggling with the facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 More insults and name calling for disagreeing with you. Time for bed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Twat, deluded type? When the name calling begins its always clear who is struggling with the facts. try quoting where you have got your facts from before you question my reading of the case, I say again, your either an idiot a troll or a total fuckwit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Twat, deluded type? When the name calling begins its always clear who is struggling with the facts. try quoting where you have got your facts from before you question my reading of the case, I say again, your either an idiot a troll or a total fuckwit Tbh neil82 you were doing gran until the insults, i see what neo saying, the nhs went to court an prevented the littleun from possibly getting treatment earlier elsewhere, thats his point, they shouldnt be able to do that? An i agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 You're another one who dismisses the point of the suffering a long haul flight would cause! That was the whole crux of the case! Or is that irrelevant cause its their kid and they get decide! Which i suspect is what it boils down to. How dare anyone tell me what i can or cannot do with my child! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Stranger things have happened scot, than docs being wrong, there was a better chance before the nhs denyed him treatment, an it all went to court. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Where is the proof he had a better chance before this court case. yea i agree drs can be wrong.However this wasn't a couple of Drs saying it was futile and will only cause more suffering. Also these Drs didnt go to all the trouble of a court case on a whim or to needlessly cause more distress to these parents cause they were being callous. If that was the case they would have gladly offloaded the problem to the states and moved on to another case. Also they didn't want to keep the kid for financial reasons either. They believed it was bordering on abuse taking the child abroad. You have to stand back and say maybe they are right and i have to listen to them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Well said Scot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,823 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 More insults and name calling for disagreeing with you. Time for bed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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