David.evans 5,323 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Well the decision has been made , write or wrong ! And now it's a matter of time , god help,the little mite 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Bolloxs neo, so the state should let every parent make every decision for there child? If the parents themselves are grown adults who are responsible citizens and were capable of bringing the child into the world, then of course they have the right to make all decisions for their children. Your not one of these trolls are you. Amazing You're not one of those troll cry babies that can't stand an opposing view are you? Incredible. Anyway, back to reality........there wouldn't be a life support machine left spare in the country with your way ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Resources are finite is it right that a child with no hope should be using those resources when a child with hope could be using them I don't think so ... someone has to draw a line . It seems like this argument's coming up more and more often,I've heard it said about fat people and people who drink too much in the last couple of days. 'But what impact will it have on the NHS?',as if it's some sort of holy grail. The lad's parents have raised the funds,so it doesn't effect anyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Well the decision has been made , write or wrong ! And now it's a matter of time , god help,the little mite Well it's too late now. The UK did all it could to refuse further alternative treatment and overide the parents wishes and requests. Makes you feel all warm inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,170 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 neo,you seem to believe the doctors were cruel,and uncaring,not wanting to save a life.they prob explained the sad situation about the outcome,so as parents we should listen to experts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Well the decision has been made , write or wrong ! And now it's a matter of time , god help,the little mite Spot on Dave. That's probably the most apt thing said on this thread ........ God help the little mite indeed mate. When the time comes - May he rest in peace. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David.evans 5,323 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 This is just to sad , for all concerned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,914 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Resources are finite is it right that a child with no hope should be using those resources when a child with hope could be using them I don't think so ... someone has to draw a line . It seems like this argument's coming up more and more often,I've heard it said about fat people and people who drink too much in the last couple of days. 'But what impact will it have on the NHS?',as if it's some sort of holy grail. The lad's parents have raised the funds,so it doesn't effect anyone else. But people who smoke drink or who are over weight have hope this child didn't have any hope Even if the American surgery was successfull there would still be no quality of life for the kid...I'm the son of a knackers yard man maybe I have a knackers yard mentality but that's how I see it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused. Do you honestly believe that the NHS, the government and the judges didn't have the child's best interests at heart? Perhaps it's a big conspiracy and they all got together just to spite him and his parents? Wilko's have got tinfoil on sale! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,935 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Why do you assume I haven't looked into the case? The situation is who decides? the panel or the parents.....as i said previously who decides whether a child continues to live or not? That's the situation. Do some research other than the regurgitated rhetoric that's churned out. It's about choice. You take choice away......that's it, game over The parents are given a lot of choices, I know I've been there. But when they start thinking that keeping the kid Alice so they have a child is more important than stopping the ongoing pain the doctors have to make medical decisions. To a degree in agree we should get choices but at the same time we aren't medical professionals so ultimately the doctors should be allowed to do what they have to do People should always have choices wether they are medical professionals or not. Some people don't like making choices because most of the time people are misinformed or choose not to inform themselves. The problem is where do you draw the line. Do you take away life support from all the other people that rely on all types of medical machinery aswell as those who rely on drugs and medicine's to keep them alive artificially? To look at the case and come to the conclusion that the Doctors in the UK have only the child's best interest at, is absurd. As Doctors it is their duty and service to provide whatever treatment may help a patient and to increase life expectancy, not to override the choices and decisions of the parents. no its the parents right at all! If you want that right you do the training and have the equipment at home. It's the doctors responsibility to make the best choice possible and there aim isn't to extend life expectancy but improve quality and that lad had no quality at all 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,966 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 So who decides if the parents are responsible adults neo? Troll no just someone who doesn't agree with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,935 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 His parents of course. that's bullocks, based on that we shouldn't prosecute parents who do wrong to their kids because it's there choice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,935 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 The reality is that the parents were wanting to take the child abroad, but the NHS refused. because they know it wouldn't have happened, if they had tried to get him to the US he would have passed in transit, I personally believe you just have an issue with the NHS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Resources are finite is it right that a child with no hope should be using those resources when a child with hope could be using them I don't think so ... someone has to draw a line . It seems like this argument's coming up more and more often,I've heard it said about fat people and people who drink too much in the last couple of days. 'But what impact will it have on the NHS?',as if it's some sort of holy grail. The lad's parents have raised the funds,so it doesn't effect anyone else. But people who smoke drink or who are over weight have hope this child didn't have any hope Even if the American surgery was successfull there would still be no quality of life for the kid...I'm the son of a knackers yard man maybe I have a knackers yard mentality but that's how I see it . That's a different argument,and a decision best left for the parents imo. It's one thing the NHS refusing treatment to a lost cause,quite another for them to take you to court and not allow you to get better treatment elsewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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