Help Me Understand Something About Buying Rifles In The Uk

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

So hope y'all DONT mind entertaining me again but I have a question on gun buying across the pond.

 

I was on YouTube and was watching Fieldsports new video which was titled something like " What you get with a cheap rifle ". Any how the fella was shooting some rather high class (least for my tastes lol ) rifles then he goes to the bench and starts reviewing a Ruger American bolt action. Now on of the first things he says is how's its a fairly cheap rifle at 600 pounds. My first question being ,are all rifles over your way that expensive ? I was kind of blow away because I saw the same rifle new at the gun store for like $300 and $150 used at the pawn shop. Of course importing and all plays a factor but 600 still seems a bit steep.

Next he said it was cheaper than the CZ Lon of rifles which he talked about as being kind of the lower tier starting at like 800 pounds. Now this surprised me as well because CZ over here is some classy stuff , lil more than your average Remington 700.

So what is like the "cheapo " rifle company over that way ? Do what we view as a fine rifle here more less is kinda ok over there ?

And the final thing he talked about that really bugged me was he was talking about the stock and how it was plastic . Seemed to really bug him but he never seemed to th I I about just getting a aftermarket stock. I know theirs like 20 different ones made just for that rifle you can get for less than $100. So are aftermarket parts just not as big of a thing over there as here ? Because it's pretty common practice here to to get a used or ok rifle ,replace the stock,new this new that and just get a bunch of aftermarket stuff an customize it. Is it just not like customary to do that or is it due to lack of parts of cost ?

Please forgive my ignorance lol but just found it curious

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

Firstly, I wouldn't look to the Fieldsports channel as a reliable source of information on Shooting in the UK.

 

For me it would be like saying I watched the dukes of hazzard and all Americans drive around in orange dodge chargers.

 

It seems to me though that all our rifles and shotguns are a lot more expensive over here, for fullbore rifle's £600 is the cheap end of the spectrum, and really the sky is the limit after that.

 

Tikka would be a good popular brand, coming in at £1000 to £1500 ish depending on what you want.

 

Then you could spend any figure on a custom rifle, 10's of thousands if you wanted.

 

As for changing stocks etc, yeah some people do it but inwould think it is less frequent over here, cost again and supply of parts would limit the attractiveness.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Cz are the basic reliable rifles in all calibres here with a step up to tikka ,sako ,ruger.

Blazer at the top end .600 notes would get you a new basic fullbore but then a step up as said to 1000_2000 for the stainless type,synthetic stocks .We have been shafted here for years mate .I go to the States and see the rows of them in Outdoor world and price tags are unbelievably cheap against UK prices .Import duty kills any fair trade here .

[Born Hunter 17,763]

Cz are sort of known for being the 'cheap' rimfire I guess with Howa known for being the cheap centrefire.

 

Yeah, everything is f***ing expensive in comparison!

 

I fitted an aftermarket stock to my Tikka, but I wouldn't say that to do so is typical and it cost me nearly 300 quid off eBay (so not even custom fitted to me).

 

Plus you guys seem to pay considerably less than 10% sales tax right? In some states basically nothing right? We pay 20% on almost everything.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

It's alright though, the government would rather we didn't own guns so have all sorts of legislative walls and bureaucratic hurdles to stop us having the freedom to buy too many guns. LOL

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

Interesting . So are they no low cost firearm manufactures in the UK ? Are military surplus sporter builds an option ?

[sussex 5,777]

Not forgetting we have large testicles that every body likes to kick ! be it cars , guns , clothes you name it we get kicked squarely up the gonads for it ..we are the perverble cash cow ..I recently bought from the states a new gambrel and hoist my pal bought it back , it was about $14 , the same one here was £36 ...

[Greyman 28,438]

So hope y'all DONT mind entertaining me again but I have a question on gun buying across the pond.

I was on YouTube and was watching Fieldsports new video which was titled something like " What you get with a cheap rifle ". Any how the fella was shooting some rather high class (least for my tastes lol ) rifles then he goes to the bench and starts reviewing a Ruger American bolt action. Now on of the first things he says is how's its a fairly cheap rifle at 600 pounds. My first question being ,are all rifles over your way that expensive ? I was kind of blow away because I saw the same rifle new at the gun store for like $300 and $150 used at the pawn shop. Of course importing and all plays a factor but 600 still seems a bit steep.

Next he said it was cheaper than the CZ Lon of rifles which he talked about as being kind of the lower tier starting at like 800 pounds. Now this surprised me as well because CZ over here is some classy stuff , lil more than your average Remington 700.

So what is like the "cheapo " rifle company over that way ? Do what we view as a fine rifle here more less is kinda ok over there ?

And the final thing he talked about that really bugged me was he was talking about the stock and how it was plastic . Seemed to really bug him but he never seemed to th I I about just getting a aftermarket stock. I know theirs like 20 different ones made just for that rifle you can get for less than $100. So are aftermarket parts just not as big of a thing over there as here ? Because it's pretty common practice here to to get a used or ok rifle ,replace the stock,new this new that and just get a bunch of aftermarket stuff an customize it. Is it just not like customary to do that or is it due to lack of parts of cost ?

Please forgive my ignorance lol but just found it curious

welcome to rip off Britain, if you think the price difference in guns is bad you should look at trainers, even the tobacco that we make in England is half the price 26 miles away in Europe

[.357shooter 1,209]

the price of all firearms is a joke.aftermarket parts from the us if you can get them may aswell be made from pure unobtainium.the mark up is the same as bending over and taking it up the arse.i looked up a nice aftermarket stock for my 700 but the price was double what you guys pay in dollars.just for a laugh the price of powder over here for 1kg runs about £ /1 lb tubs are about £40

[sussex 5,777]

Interesting . So are they no low cost firearm manufactures in the UK ? Are military surplus sporter builds an option ?

Our military don't have surplus guns , and if they did they would be sold to third world countries to fire at us ..

[myersbg 1,385]

Wolfdog, you want to see what we pay for traps if you want a shock, 110 body grips are between £9 and £11 each, your duke 110s are about$40 a dozen,

 

Don't even ask about petrol or diesel prices

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

the price of all firearms is a joke.aftermarket parts from the us if you can get them may aswell be made from pure unobtainium.the mark up is the same as bending over and taking it up the arse.i looked up a nice aftermarket stock for my 700 but the price was double what you guys pay in dollars.just for a laugh the price of powder over here for 1kg runs about £ /1 lb tubs are about £40

Well for us best on powder ! It's like $118 for a large jug

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

Assault rifles ?? Ok I think we have a mix understand here. By millitary surplus in mean older weapons that have been phased out for millitary service. Common examples being mosin nagants,Swiss k31's German mausers,ect.

 

Trust me I cannot just go into my local pawn shop and buy a legit assult rifle. All the paper work and crap is a pain and to be honest it's easiser to buy one illegally.

 

But any how its pretty common to buy an old milsurp rifle ( the Russian mosins are real popular right now , used to be able to buy a crate of them for $1200 but prices soared recently ) restock and sportier them. A lot of them make nice sporter rifles. I figured the UK would have some sort of milsurp like the old .303 enfields

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

Wait wait wait you were talking about assult rifles and this guy used a pistol....

 

Buddy imma be 100% honest here with you. There's so many weapons in the U.S. and it's apart of our culture so much you can make as many laws as you want but it ain't gonna help.

 

Look at California . Toughest gun laws in the nation and yet in most place you can go to the crummy part of town and get a full auto AK with a drum mag if you want. Crimminals simply don't care. It's that simple. It's just how it is over here sorry. And most of these crimes are in places with laws that should prevevt stuff from happening yet still does.

 

Anyhow I'm not here for some big rant on gun control bla bla . If you guys like have what you have cool ,fine ,wonderful I respect your opinion . If you wanna shoot munjac with a supressed .223 straight pull bolt gun hay thats great. I'll be over here shooing coyotes with my AR-15.

 

I'm just here to talk about like intrests with my outdoormen brothers from across the pond and to get into a pissin match about laws and politics . Just not my deal less it's just for fun

[Wolfdog91 7,019]

Ooook your point being ? Is a semiauto .223 lotta weapons I can do the same stuff with very easily and most are considers sporting rifles.

 

Anyhow are their any rifle companies based on the UK ? Seem like y'all have to import everything