Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 You will learn that there's no panic about entering if the dog is bred right. Let the pup be a pup, let it chase stuff, let it inhale the mouth if a hole .There's no harm in letting a pup see a dig or two but I hate the wriggling ,whining ,barking that sometimes follows which is hard to break .Far better to mooch with the mature pup on its own ,collared up near some easy starter spots without any pressure from other lads or dogs .Makes for a better balanced terrier and strengthens the bond between man and dog . 8 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I never take a youngster digging, the only thing I make sure they know is the scent of a fox and more importantly the whole wide world. It's no good taking a youngster out that's never been in a car, quad, whatever, they should know every sight and sound of the countryside before they're expected to perform in it. I've been trying to load a small video of a young bitch I've run on, she's seen a couple of dead foxes as she's grown up and that's pretty much it apart from walking her out letting her hunt cover and take it all in. The video is her marking the third earth in the woods behind my house, she was nine months old and desperate to go, she recognised the scent and nature being nature her natural instincts kicked in and the breeding showed through. Edited to say, third earth on the first day of asking Edited June 28, 2017 by dillydog Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I never take a youngster digging, the only thing I make sure they know is the scent of a fox and more importantly the whole wide world. It's no good taking a youngster out that's never been in a car, quad, whatever, they should know every sight and sound of the countryside before they're expected to perform in it. I've been trying to load a small video of a young bitch I've run on, she's seen a couple of dead foxes as she's grown up and that's pretty much it apart from walking her out letting her hunt cover and take it all in. The video is her marking the third earth in the woods behind my house, she was nine months old and desperate to go, she recognised the scent and nature being nature her natural instincts kicked in and the breeding showed through. Edited to say, third earth on the first day of asking That's basically all I do with pup from early age I let them mooch about then put on a lead every now and then to get use to that they hunt with the lurchers and when there ready they will drop in , a lot of lads leave them in a kennel take them to a dig and expect world beaters it ain't going to happen 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Not my usual thing to enter them young but this is the same bitch I was talking about at just gone ten months old. Easy place in sand, the deepest mark I've ever had was four foot and with her blood I thought I'd try and learn her to use her voice.........it didn't work, she's just as dull as her sire. 9 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I've been known to drag fresh road kill around fields on a bit of rope laying a trail for a pup to hunt culminating in the pup going up a 9 inch drain to find it i done that when i was 11 after watching where the red fern grows Good for you mate . It worked well for me as the said pup self entered at 8 months and loved it Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) She was marking for a second or two before I remembered I'd got my phone with me, if you listen at the beginning you'll hear her whining down the hole. Don't take the piss to much, I was talking to a puppy lol Edited June 28, 2017 by dillydog 4 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 She looks driven Dilly. Is Mick throwing early starters or is she an exception rather than the rule? Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 She was marking for a second or two before I remembered I'd got my phone with me, if you listen at the beginning you'll hear her whining down the hole. Don't take the piss to much, I was talking to a puppy lol should go from strength to strength. Atb with her. 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 She looks driven Dilly. Is Mick throwing early starters or is she an exception rather than the rule? He's not been used on a lot of bitches mate, I can only go off her and she's ready for work now. Her litter sister is looking well and she's also marking, the other's haven't been out yet that I know of. 1 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,758 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Can't beat that feeling of seeing a young un start graft Edited June 28, 2017 by marshman 4 Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I would say you have done a good job of bringing him on,bushing and entering earth's etc etc but you have got to make a decision on what you want the dog for,if you go bushing on a frosty January morning dollars to doughnuts your going to spend your time digging him out ,especially if you encourage him on fox as you intend.is it a foxer or a rabbiter you want, Edited June 28, 2017 by downsview Quote Link to post
lurcherlad92 24 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Ideally foxes! Quote Link to post
jcb 271 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Dilly did you ever have any problems or fears digging sandy earths like that.have a good few earths that are sandy like that but usually twice as deep but simple digging .never had a problem yet touch wood. 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I've had one collapse on me and one really bad dig in Sandbach, it just kept collapsing. In 30 plus years of digging I've only had a handful of near misses, you leave the sandy places for us old fellas 1 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 All depends on the sand. Some of the fine powdery stuff isnt worth the risk imo. One near miss is too many as it could end differently. 1 Quote Link to post
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