Greyman 28,651 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, foxdropper said: Thing is mate ,I don’t need any scale of any sort to ID something having seen thousands of images in the thermal .You state it’s either a fox or house cat but to me it’s crystal clear what it is as soon as it moved. My point was to illustrate that thermal pics ,vids might one day reveal large cats are here but only if the viewer can ID it as cat in the first place which you yourself and others weren’t able to do in this instance .Grainy or not those who look through thermal regular will know exactly what they are looking at from the moment it moves and the size of it too without the need for background ,front scale And this is why it’s not possible for anyone to hold a serious discussion with you as your goalposts just move to suite your argument your now claiming you don’t need any scale to no yet the puma filmed from 10 meters that I put up all you have kept saying is you need a daylight scaling, you have failed to grasp pretty much anything that’s been said over the last 500 pages and just keep changing tack to continue your imaginary argument Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,860 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Greyman said: the 1000 is a newspapers spin on it but it’s what people like Mackey like to keep reiterating How do you personally know the thousand figure is spin, Nicepix SUGGESTED it but how do you actually KNOW its the journalists figure? 8 minutes ago, Greyman said: people like Mackey Be consistent.... Mr Benn.... Quackem.... Mackey... I ain't got split personality syndrome ya know Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,860 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 1000 ain't my figure, it's a UK big cat experts Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Greyman said: And this is why it’s not possible for anyone to hold a serious discussion with you as your goalposts just move to suite your argument your now claiming you don’t need any scale to no yet the puma filmed from 10 meters that I put up all you have kept saying is you need a daylight scaling, you have failed to grasp pretty much anything that’s been said over the last 500 pages and just keep changing tack to continue your imaginary argument Just relax a minute and read what I wrote Paul .I , as in me ,myself and I do not need a scale when I’m seeing something through the thermal .Pics yes vids yes from a third party but I’ve seen enough to know what I’m looking at and trust me when I say you’d be the first to know if I’d seen a large cat in the thermal . I havnt changed anything mate just put up something you’ve been asking for for 200 odd pages ,proof .Proof that thermal can be deceiving . Your forever on the back foot mate and need to relax about things . There is no imaginary argument mate ,they are either there or they ain’t and all the crap from both sides is just that until we get something proper to discuss .You yourself don’t believe that’s a cougar in that thermal pic or you would be much more full of yourself and at ease instead of biting at things that really don’t warrant a bite at all .You do realise your post count is 1200 plus whilst mine is a mere half that ,yet you’ve put up nothing anyone will substantiate .I’m all about real time facts mate ,not what ifs or maybes .If the time comes when we see a cougar or leopard on uk soil I’ll be the first to congratulate whoever puts it up but until then I’m afraid it’s open season for us all . Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, Greyman said: But he’s not though, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story, the number rick gave in years gone by was 500 as that is basically the minimum number you would need to not have inbreeding if there were 3 species here the 1000 is a newspapers spin on it but it’s what people like Mackey like to keep reiterating to prove his point, and look what a stupid comparison you have just given rhinos ffs are you for real Right so Rick thinks 500 big cats just appeared in the uk..what is his theory..that someone in the uk had a private collection of 500 big cats loaded them all into a load of artic trucks and drove the length of Britain stopping every 2 Miles and dropping a cat off.. Or does he think it all started with 1 breeding pair and they inbred flat out and eventually reached 500 cats..its a wonder there ain't 5 legged and 2 headed cats running about.. Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, mackem said: Hereford.... Colorado I knew it was the states 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,860 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: I knew it was the states Might have been the UK, there's all sorts kicking about Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,651 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, king said: Right so Rick thinks 500 big cats just appeared in the uk..what is his theory..that someone in the uk had a private collection of 500 big cats loaded them all into a load of artic trucks and drove the length of Britain stopping every 2 Miles and dropping a cat off.. Or does he think it all started with 1 breeding pair and they inbred flat out and eventually reached 500 cats..its a wonder there ain't 5 legged and 2 headed cats running about.. All I can say to that is wow, you must be pretending to be this stupid it can’t be real, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Greyman said: All I can say to that is wow, you must be pretending to be this stupid it can’t be real, Well can you explain to me mate..how does rick think 500 big cats came to be in the uk.. Surely he doesent think they just appeared..or does he.. Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,651 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, king said: Well can you explain to me mate..how does think 500 big cats came to be in the uk.. Go and do some research mate, start by looking at how many were sold as pets between 1960 and 1980 maybe you will find your own answers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,869 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, foxdropper said: If you look at the post count on the thread mate I’m 600 odd posts short of the main poster ,without looking guess who that is Not getting worked up mate just adding to the thread where I see fit .Maybe being an advocate for it you’ll put up something other than the shite you have so far .Seems ok for you to try crack a funny but anyone else is out of order well have a festive f**k you from me Lol see, can't keep civil for very long, can you?! Lol. We don't all have to have the latest thermal gadgetry etc, to have an opinion on an interesting subject, foxy lol. And a festive FAACK OFF, from me!! Lol 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, mackem said: Might have been the UK, there's all sorts kicking about Don't tell me Elephant's were release too Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,869 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mackem said: Be consistent.... Mr Benn.... Quackem.... Mackey... I ain't got split personality syndrome ya know Well, it does look like popping into that fancy-dress costume shop so often, has left certain tell tale signs on you!! Edited December 19, 2022 by shaaark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,860 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, paulus said: Don't tell me Elephant's were release too After what King said about the Rhino I set up a trail cam along the Thames and........ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,947 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Greyman said: And this is why it’s not possible for anyone to hold a serious discussion with you as your goalposts just move to suite your argument your now claiming you don’t need any scale to no yet the puma filmed from 10 meters that I put up all you have kept saying is you need a daylight scaling, you have failed to grasp pretty much anything that’s been said over the last 500 pages and just keep changing tack to continue your imaginary argument glad to see someone else get accused of moving goalposts when people get flustered because they are wrong Link to post Share on other sites
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