Big Cat Sighting

[Arry 21,383]

5 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

I have extremely trustworthy mates my friend but none to a man have seen any big cats yet all travel the country shooting ,fishing etc .Im not questioning trust mate just what they think they saw .Put ten people in a room ,take them out then ask them what colour was the door and youll get varied answers all from trust worthy people.

Dont get upset it mate ,its human nature . 

Not at all up set mate why would the colour of a door catch your interest mate. Mate and his niece saw one laid on a country lane sat up then jump a 6 foot hedge it was a puma. Mate watch a Black Big stalking two rabbit as he was up a ladder for 20 minutes he could even tell in looked very thin. Why on earth should I doubt an account. Oh the guttering was white he was cleaning Lol.

Cheers Arry

 

[Arry 21,383]

4 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Nice pics mate but not the big cats we are lead to believe roam this island.Leopard cats are just a posh house cat mate same as bengals .Ive got a pic somewhere of one i snared here .Skinny things tbh .

Just saying if they are out there wild so can others be.

Cheers Arry

[Arry 21,383]

 

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41473000/jpg/_41473382_lynx-203-pa.jpg  Kept in ice - the shot Lynx

For more than 40 years the phenomenon of the Big Cat thriving in the wilds of the UK has made headlines. But as enthusiasts gather this weekend for the first UK conference on Big Cats, are the authorities beginning to accept they may exist? 

The first UK conference on Big Cats taking place in Market Harborough, Leicestershire, this weekend will give enthusiasts the chance to share footage and theories. 

It comes as a newly-released police report revealed a lynx was shot by a gamekeeper in 1991 near Norwich, after it started chasing his gun dog. 

Officers found the lynx stuffed in a freezer during a raid. It must have escaped illegal ownership of a zoo, they concluded. 

Stuffed and mounted 

In the 1960s the four-year hunt for the Surrey Puma drew public attention to the possibility there may be something more ferocious than hedgehogs, badgers, or foxes lurking in the undergrowth. 

Since then the Beast of Bodmin, the Exmoor Beast and the Telford Puma have added to an ever-growing list. 

In 1980, one fed-up Scottish farmer decided to trap the beast which was mauling his livestock using a cage complete with sheep's head. 

Cheers Arry

[EDDIE B 3,159]

14 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Not really true Eddie, and I have caught these on trail cams just incase you are interested I’ve said many times before but there are no jaguars in the wild here and black leopards breed true to type there obviously were spotty pets but the black ones were the far more desirable and will always throw black offspring the brown ones are just pumas as there has never been a melanistic puma though there was one seen recently that’s opened a lot o debate

There is a good difference there  now lad, isn't there. Even the number of spots, can't be ignored. Be harder fool anyone that the moggy above, is a leopard, even from distance.

 O, and why would a Jaguar out of the question? Just intetested

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

11 minutes ago, Arry said:

Not at all up set mate why would the colour of a door catch your interest mate. Mate and his niece saw one laid on a country lane sat up then jump a 6 foot hedge it was a puma. Mate watch a Black Big stalking two rabbit as he was up a ladder for 20 minutes he could even tell in looked very thin. Why on earth should I doubt an account. Oh the guttering was white he was cleaning Lol.

Cheers Arry

 

I understand your frustration mate honestly but nothing stacks up .Youve read all the reasons why but no~one seems to be able to answer them with anything that makes sense to me or others .

My point is everybody sees things differently .Even the zoo owner who has pumas etc in his collection couldnt ID a cat at first glance which is all people seem to be getting and thought it was a deer 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

17 minutes ago, Arry said:

Just saying if they are out there wild so can others be.

Cheers Arry

Just need a corpse now then mate from a cat shot on Britsh soil circa 2000

[Arry 21,383]

4 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

I understand your frustration mate honestly but nothing stacks up .Youve read all the reasons why but no~one seems to be able to answer them with anything that makes sense to me or others .

My point is everybody sees things differently .Even the zoo owner who has pumas etc in his collection couldnt ID a cat at first glance which is all people seem to be getting and thought it was a deer 

But then said it was a male bigger than his two females with two other witnesses.

Cheers Arry

[Arry 21,383]

2 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Just need a corpse now then mate from a cat shot on Britsh soil circa 2000

Bodmin Skull confirms existence of Beast

From The Times, 2 nd August 1995

A SKULL found in a river on Bodmin Moor is definitely that of a big cat London Zoo Declared yesterday.

After examining the seven inches long by four inches high skull, Douglas Richardson, the zoos assistant curator of mammals, said: "I believe this is the Beast of Bodmin, or one of them. There is more than one out there that's for sure."

He added: "It is definitely a big cat's skull. It is probably a leopard, possibly a puma. It still smells quite nasty, which indicates to me that it died this year, possibly in the last two months."

The zoo's resurrection of the fabled Beast of Bodmin comes less than two weeks after the Ministry of Agriculture proclaimed the creature to be nothing more dangerous than a domestic pussy cat. Rosemary Rhodes, one of the many farmers on Bodmin Moor who claim that a big cat has been preying on their sheep and cattle, said: 'This is the confirmation we have been waiting for. We never had any faith in the Ministry of Agriculture's Inquiry."

The skull was found by Barney Jones 14 on Monday of last week in a fast flowing stretch of the River Fowey near St Cleer, on the edge of Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. He was out walking with his father, Keith, and two Older brothers at the time. The family live at Tremar Coombe, near Liskeard. Barney said that he thought at first the skull was a large stone.

Mr Richardson said he could not rule out the possibility that the skull had been planted as hoax, but thought it unlikely. "'I have talked to the boys, and they came, across as credible witnesses. If you wanted to leave something lime that where people would find it. I do not think you would choose a stream where it could be washed away. Anyway, it is not so easy to get hold of a leopard skull."

Mr Richardson said he thought the skull was most likely that of a melanistic leopard popularly called a black panther. He was convinced by the two front fangs. "The puma and the leopard are two of the most adaptable big cat species in the World. There is no weather our climate could throw at them which would faze them at all. They have no competitors and plenty of food in the form of deer and rabbits.

A spokesman for Angela Browning, the junior Agriculture Minister who commissioned the official inquiry into the beast, said: "It is an interesting find but raises a lot of questions. Where did the skull come from? Where is the rest of the skeleton?"

Cheers Arry

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

5 minutes ago, Arry said:

But then said it was a male bigger than his two females with two other witnesses.

Cheers Arry

And he heard it walking in the woods .Have a think about that mate .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

6 minutes ago, Arry said:

Bodmin Skull confirms existence of Beast

From The Times, 2 nd August 1995

A SKULL found in a river on Bodmin Moor is definitely that of a big cat London Zoo Declared yesterday.

After examining the seven inches long by four inches high skull, Douglas Richardson, the zoos assistant curator of mammals, said: "I believe this is the Beast of Bodmin, or one of them. There is more than one out there that's for sure."

He added: "It is definitely a big cat's skull. It is probably a leopard, possibly a puma. It still smells quite nasty, which indicates to me that it died this year, possibly in the last two months."

The zoo's resurrection of the fabled Beast of Bodmin comes less than two weeks after the Ministry of Agriculture proclaimed the creature to be nothing more dangerous than a domestic pussy cat. Rosemary Rhodes, one of the many farmers on Bodmin Moor who claim that a big cat has been preying on their sheep and cattle, said: 'This is the confirmation we have been waiting for. We never had any faith in the Ministry of Agriculture's Inquiry."

The skull was found by Barney Jones 14 on Monday of last week in a fast flowing stretch of the River Fowey near St Cleer, on the edge of Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. He was out walking with his father, Keith, and two Older brothers at the time. The family live at Tremar Coombe, near Liskeard. Barney said that he thought at first the skull was a large stone.

Mr Richardson said he could not rule out the possibility that the skull had been planted as hoax, but thought it unlikely. "'I have talked to the boys, and they came, across as credible witnesses. If you wanted to leave something lime that where people would find it. I do not think you would choose a stream where it could be washed away. Anyway, it is not so easy to get hold of a leopard skull."

Mr Richardson said he thought the skull was most likely that of a melanistic leopard popularly called a black panther. He was convinced by the two front fangs. "The puma and the leopard are two of the most adaptable big cat species in the World. There is no weather our climate could throw at them which would faze them at all. They have no competitors and plenty of food in the form of deer and rabbits.

A spokesman for Angela Browning, the junior Agriculture Minister who commissioned the official inquiry into the beast, said: "It is an interesting find but raises a lot of questions. Where did the skull come from? Where is the rest of the skeleton?"

Cheers Arry

Anything up to date Arry

[Arry 21,383]

2 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Anything up to date Arry

Not my hobby mate I'm just somebody who find it interesting.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41473000/jpg/_41473384_skull-bbcs-203.jpg  This puma skull was found by a farmer in Devon in 2005

Cheers Arry

Tried to copy a photo didn't work mate.

Edited December 7, 2022 by Arry

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

3 minutes ago, Arry said:

Not my hobby mate I'm just somebody who find it interesting.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41473000/jpg/_41473384_skull-bbcs-203.jpg  This puma skull was found by a farmer in Devon in 2005

Cheers Arry

i find it very interesting mate .Skull found by Richard Harmon i believe .

[Greyman 28,096]

1 minute ago, EDDIE B said:

There is a good difference there  now lad, isn't there. Even the number of spots, can't be ignored. Be harder fool anyone that the moggy above, is a leopard, even from distance.

 O, and why would a Jaguar out of the question? Just intetested

Because jaguars are a bit of a specialist and would not be able to blend in they are apex predators and would take cows and horses were as the three that we have are all opportunistic and will feed on anything from grasshoppers to deer, here’s a little prediction for the future if any of us are still here, in Russia at the moment the same thing is happening that happened here in the 60/70s and people are buying pumas leopards etc as pets so in the future that will be another continent they will naturalise  

[mackem 26,188]

16 minutes ago, Arry said:

Bodmin Skull confirms existence of Beast

From The Times, 2 nd August 1995

A SKULL found in a river on Bodmin Moor is definitely that of a big cat London Zoo Declared 
Mr Richardson said he could not rule out the possibility that the skull had been planted as hoax, 

I think there's a follow up too that story Arry. 

[Arry 21,383]

1 minute ago, foxdropper said:

i find it very interesting mate 

There seems to be some evidence here and there and summing it up I believe back 90's -2000 there were Big Cats around. Now I think a fraction of that but I had a account of a black one a year to 18 month back and I believe him. So I think some must have bred. Think there is a good chance there are a few Lynx out there not hundreds but some.

Think with more tail cams better phone/cameras in the not so distant future we will see some good footage.

Cheers Arry