Arry 22,367 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Daniel cain said: Didn't that Mary chippenfield admit to releasing her captive big cats from her circus??? Beast of Dartmoor mystery SOLVED after circus owner 'released three pumas in 1970s' - Mirror Online WWW.MIRROR.CO.UK Circus owner Mary Chipperfield is thought to have released Give Cheers Arry 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,881 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greb147 said: You honestly believe that's real, it makes a leopard look like a greyhound. I,ll just pop you in the no camp with sandy save any argument 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, Greyman said: Can be bigger depending on population density, 400 miles is the territory of a known puma in the states fitted with a tracker, But going by what the experts say the population of these 250+ big cats shouldn't be too sparse as they are mainly situated in the southern regions, that means plenty of food and mates on the doorstep. Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Greyman said: I,ll just pop you in the no camp with sandy save any argument Anyone who has the first clue about big cats would tell you that isn't a leopard, it's built like a bear ffs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Here's a pic of a big black leopard, still, nothing like the beast pictured. Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,881 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: Anyone who has the first clue about big cats would tell you that isn't a leopard, it's built like a bear ffs. A bear with the exact dimensions of a good size male leopard, regarding anyone with a clue about big cats some of the people I do this with travel to India to do work with leopards and America for the same reason with pumas, not sit in a cab skiving off work searching google, now excuse me for being rude but I,m off to work now 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,881 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Here's a pic of a big black leopard, still, nothing like the beast pictured. One quick last one then 16 sub species of leopards from small clouded to much bigger depending on were in the world they are from now have a good day and do some work Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Greyman said: A bear with the exact dimensions of a good size male leopard, regarding anyone with a clue about big cats some of the people I do this with travel to India to do work with leopards and America for the same reason with pumas, not sit in a cab skiving off work searching google, now excuse me for being rude but I,m off to work now You and your expert friends must be supping that strong cider if you think that has the dimensions of a male leopard. I've been interested in big cats since I was a nipper, send your experts to my cab and I'll set them straight. I'll say it again, that ain't no leopard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 22,367 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 I 100% believe there are Big Cats out there. Between early 80's and 2000 there were weekly sightings down here in the South Hams and Dartmoor strangely more of a Black Big Cat. I have heard many accounts of sighting from a Farmers son who's father seen it twice on their farm and the lads sister who had one land in front of her as it leaped over a hedge into a green land and jump the opposite hedge. Also good friends and countrymen that have seen them while working on a house or out shooting. Another mate seen one laid in the middle of a country lane it got up and leapt over a six foot hedge on his way fishing with his niece who saw it as well. All liars of course or just a figment of their imagination. These people are good country folk I like them and trust them. In about 2000 there was a Black Big Cat getting sighted almost weekly and seemed to be on the move ( maybe why it was getting sighted). If remember rightly it was first sighted down near the Dartmoor Zoo not far from Plymouth it seem to be traveling east towards were I lived. Every few days another sighting it was getting closer I was convinced our paths would cross to the point my lad and I bought some three inch SPSG twelve gauge shells. Well it didn't happen the cat seemed to be traveling the wrong side of the river Dart towards the coast. Well next it was spotted between Dartmouth and Brixham so it had crossed the river, next right near Brixham then Paignton where there is another Zoo. But it seem to carry on was spotted near Torquay after that to be honest I can't remember and it had past us by so sort of lost interest. Theres a little village called Loddiswell about ten miles south of me that was a hot spot for sightings at one time almost weekly and still from time to time now. Most sighting by country folk are not reported none of my friends or Farmers that have told me about their sighting have reported to Police or press. Cheers Arry 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Greyman said: One quick last one then 16 sub species of leopards from small clouded to much bigger depending on were in the world they are from now have a good day and do some work The clouded leopard is not a sub-species of leopard, don't worry about my work sicknote. Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) On 19/05/2021 at 07:45, Arry said: I 100% believe there are Big Cats out there. Between early 80's and 2000 there were weekly sightings down here in the South Hams and Dartmoor strangely more of a Black Big Cat. I have heard many accounts of sighting from a Farmers son who's father seen it twice on their farm and the lads sister who had one land in front of her as it leaped over a hedge into a green land and jump the opposite hedge. Also good friends and countrymen that have seen them while working on a house or out shooting. Another mate seen one laid in the middle of a country lane it got up and leapt over a six foot hedge on his way fishing with his niece who saw it as well. All liars of course or just a figment of their imagination. These people are good country folk I like them and trust them. In about 2000 there was a Black Big Cat getting sighted almost weekly and seemed to be on the move ( maybe why it was getting sighted). If remember rightly it was first sighted down near the Dartmoor Zoo not far from Plymouth it seem to be traveling east towards were I lived. Every few days another sighting it was getting closer I was convinced our paths would cross to the point my lad and I bought some three inch SPSG twelve gauge shells. Well it didn't happen the cat seemed to be traveling the wrong side of the river Dart towards the coast. Well next it was spotted between Dartmouth and Brixham so it had crossed the river, next right near Brixham then Paignton where there is another Zoo. But it seem to carry on was spotted near Torquay after that to be honest I can't remember and it had past us by so sort of lost interest. Theres a little village called Loddiswell about ten miles south of me that was a hot spot for sightings at one time almost weekly and still from time to time now. Most sighting by country folk are not reported none of my friends or Farmers that have told me about their sighting have reported to Police or press. Cheers Arry I don't think to many people would argue with the fact that cats may well have been released in the 70's and early 80's (perhaps earlier for all I know). There must have been escapees over the years as well. Big cats tend to live between approx 10-20 years in the wild. So anything seen early 80's to 2000 will be dead. The question is simply down to breeding now, have any of the very small number out there historically met and bred, unlikely is an understatement. Edited May 20, 2021 by Deker 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Deker said: I don't think to many people would argue with the fact that cats may well have been released in the 70 and early 80's (perhaps earlier for all I know). There must have been escapees over the years as well. Big cats tend to live between approx 10-20 years in the wild. So anything seen early 80's to 2000 will be dead. The question is simply down to breeding now, have any of the very small number out there historically met and bred, unlikely is an understatement. Extremely unlikely as there's always a conflict of species, there's no evidence at all to suggest leopards breed with pumas and produce fertile offspring. Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 22,367 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Deker said: I don't think to many people would argue with the fact that cats may well have been released in the 70 and early 80's (perhaps earlier for all I know). There must have been escapees over the years as well. Big cats tend to live between approx 10-20 years in the wild. So anything seen early 80's to 2000 will be dead. The question is simply down to breeding now, have any of the very small number out there historically met and bred, unlikely is an understatement. Think you right right to some degree mate, certainly not the amount of sightings now that there was back along. I do think there maybe pockets of breeding Big Cats, Dorset seems to be a hot spot now. I often wonder about that cat that was heading east then seemed to move up the coast recon looking for a mate, may have found one in Dorset. I also believe we may have a small amount of Lynx as there seems to still be sightings of them from time to time and the terrain down here would be more suited to then. Cheers Arry 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,139 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: You and your expert friends must be supping that strong cider if you think that has the dimensions of a male leopard. I've been interested in big cats since I was a nipper, send your experts to my cab and I'll set them straight. I'll say it again, that ain't no leopard. I agree that doesn't look like a cat, what would you say it was Greb, pretty weird looking up close. Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Looks like a male Jaguar to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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