gazjon5 819 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, baker boy said: Something doesnt look quite right with that pic Picture is legit mate, Guys name is Steve Ecklund: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/steve-ecklund-cougar-alberta-1.4459546 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42447045 Edited to add the BBC link Edited May 12, 2021 by gazjon5 Link to post Share on other sites
gazjon5 819 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Greb147 said: But they do get filmed and caught hence the brilliant trophy specimen pictured above. Yep true, but i would bet there is a far larger % of the population here that hunts, (and owns trail cams etc) compared to the uk. On the flip side though, there is an awful lot more wild, remote areas here as well.... Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,151 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,684 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 hours ago, baker boy said: Something doesnt look quite right with that pic Even the dogs got a f**k me look at the size of it expression in its face Link to post Share on other sites
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 hours ago, baker boy said: Something doesnt look quite right with that pic First quote to any picture of a so called Big cat......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 https://www.(!64.56:886/bex.carr1/posts/10157592758016152?comment_id=10157615333376152¬if_id=1620890440234207¬if_t=comment_mention&ref=notif 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, keepdiggin said: https://www.(!64.56:886/bex.carr1/posts/10157592758016152?comment_id=10157615333376152¬if_id=1620890440234207¬if_t=comment_mention&ref=notif Ginger moggy. Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 I always hold civil conversations, I just wish you could be as adult. The cat in the caravan was a cat, not a cougar or a leopard. The only reason you dislike my contribution to the subject is that it demonstrates the fact that it is very unlikely any big cats survive in the UK. I put jokey posts up as I don't take it to seriously, you insult people because you do take it to seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,688 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 hours ago, sandymere said: I put jokey posts up as I don't take it to seriously, you insult people because you do take it to seriously. To be fair hes bound to take it seriously . Id be disappointed in a guy who set trail cams and podcasts etc that didnt 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,815 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 It's a marathon not a sprint. Cheers, D. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,686 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 22:40, baker boy said: Something doesnt look quite right with that pic I agree To clean on the edges of the cat. Makes it pop, like it's been altered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Welsh_red said: To be fair hes bound to take it seriously . Id be disappointed in a guy who set trail cams and podcasts etc that didnt I was referring to the forum posts rather than the subject. As to the subject I take it seriously enough to speak to highway verge clearance and council workers etc and evaluate the evidence honestly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,980 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, sandymere said: I was referring to the forum posts rather than the subject. As to the subject I take it seriously enough to speak to highway verge clearance and council workers etc and evaluate the evidence honestly. Have they or know of anyone who has picked up a big cat body.or anything similar mate.. Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, king said: Have they or know of anyone who has picked up a big cat body.or anything similar mate.. No, the fella that works with the team cutting back the trees etc along the A361 has found all-sorts, polecats, otters, mink, etc in various states of decay and of course domestic cats a plenty but never any other type of cat and that runs right across north Devon on moors, pasture and woodlands, lots of deer, mainly red and Roe plus occasional fallow even the odd Muntjack. The fellas that are responsible for picking up bodies in the local town, surrounding villages and local roads, if they are a nuisance, haven't had any either. Although this is a small part of the country it supposedly has a decent population but the main point is that if they found one they're not the sort to keep it quiet, quite the opposite they'd go for their 5 minutes of fame and I expect that would likely be much the same across the country. The reality is that if a cougar or black panther was lying by the side of a road it would be all over social media in no time, it would be taken to a lab and studied to ascertain if it was born here, if it had spent time in captivity etc etc. Unless it was proven to be a recent release or escapee it could well prove their existence but.... as we know that road kill is a major cause of death to big cats in all their populations from India to America, that have roads running through their territories, then the absence of road kills in the UK is very telling. Everywhere else that has populations of big cats like leopards or pumas have road kill and with our density of busy roads in the UK, if they were about, some would end up as road kill. Combine that with all the camera traps spotted across the countryside, NV, lampers, dash cams, CCTV etc etc if there were a population of big cats in the UK it would be common knowledge, much as its common knowledge they have Pumas wandering the suburbs of the USA and Leopards wandering the cities and towns of India and as with those places they would be filmed, collared, tracked and studies to the nth degree. People report sightings but we know that the human eye is easily fooled and just isn't reliable, we see an image that is made in our brains and adapted to what we see rather than what we actually see so people don't set out to mislead, they report what they saw in all honesty but that doesn't mean that they really saw a big cat. And again with modern technology we'd be getting good visual images, a mother cougar chasing a group of hikers would be on someones phone and again all over social media or worse still someone getting mauled, everything gets videoed nowadays. There will always be fakers and with modern technology fakes can be very believable, be it pictures or footprints etc, I could get some leopard shite or a few hairs or claim to have seen one for my 5 minutes of fame but a body can't be faked and that's why we don't get them. Edited May 14, 2021 by sandymere spelling edit. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,980 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, sandymere said: No, the fella that works with the team cutting back the trees etc along the A361 has found all-sorts, polecats, otters, mink, etc in various states of decay and of course domestic cats a plenty but never any other type of cat and that runs right across north Devon on moors, pasture and woodlands, lots of deer, mainly red and Roe plus occasional fallow even the odd Muntjack. The fellas that are responsible for picking up bodies in the local town, surrounding villages and local roads, if they are a nuisance, haven't had any either. Although this is a small part of the country it supposedly has a decent population but the main point is that if they found one they're not the sort to keep it quiet, quite the opposite they'd go for their 5 minutes of fame and I expect that would likely be much the same across the country. The reality is that if a cougar or black panther was lying by the side of a road it would be all over social media in no time, it would be taken to a lab and studied to ascertain if it was born here, if it had spent time in captivity etc etc. Unless it was proven to be a recent release or escapee it could well prove their existence but.... as we know that road kill is a major cause of death to big cats in all their populations from India to America, that have roads running through their territories, then the absence of road kills in the UK is very telling. Everywhere else that has populations of big cats like leopards or pumas have road kill and with our density of busy roads in the UK, if they were about, some would end up as road kill. Combine that with all the camera traps spotted across the countryside, NV, lampers, dash cams, CCTV etc etc if there were a population of big cats in the UK it would be common knowledge, much as its common knowledge they have Pumas wandering the suburbs of the USA and Leopards wandering the cities and towns of India and as with those places they would be filmed, collared, tracked and studies to the nth degree. People report sightings but we know that the human eye is easily fooled and just isn't reliable, we see an image that is made in our brains and adapted to what we see rather than what we actually see so people don't set out to mislead, they report what they saw in all honesty but that doesn't mean that they really saw a big cat. And again with modern technology we'd be getting good visual images, a mother cougar chasing a group of hikers would be on someones phone and again all over social media or worse still someone getting mauled, everything gets videoed nowadays. There will always be fakers and with modern technology fakes can be very believable, be it pictures or footprints etc, I could get some leopard shite or a few hairs or claim to have seen one for my 5 minutes of fame but a body can't be faked and that's why we don't get them. Cracking post mate..and I totally agree with all of that...decades and decades people have been reporting sightings..yet not a single body after all this time... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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