Big Cat Sighting

[sandymere 8,263]

So todays little questions, faeces, yes folk poo, I don’t know of any mammal that doesn’t produce shite………………………..some more than others.

Of course the production isn’t the problem; it’s the lack of production that’s the issue. Now anyone with a dog will know that cat shite has an unerring attraction to dogs, eat it, roll in it but never ignore it, it is rather smelly and even to the human olfactory abilities is soon located. So 250 cats shitting in the woods but never a sample turns up??? Just imagine hundreds of kill sites found by the “experts” but never a shite! Hours upon hours spent in the woods in “known areas”, thousands of pounds in petrol etc but never a poo to the lab? Why I hear you say “it would tell us so much“ not just  the species of cat but what it eats, health etc etc. An absolute mine of information that would be invaluable to any true scientist or even amateur cat aficionado.  Now I’m aware that this matter could be garnered from captive animals but with modern genetics we can compare to known individuals in captivity so the hoaxers risk being exposed as a fraud. So where’s the shite?????

 

Ps I see that the publication has been made, yes folks anyone following this subject will recall I had asked where these scientist were publishing their findings, which respected, peer reviewed scientific journal would feature their work, after all it would be an extraordinary finding with international interest and renown!! Well you’ll all be glad to know it was the Daily Star, yes indeed that world renowned repository of all that is true and scientific.  (perhaps I should have used suppository rather than repository. )

[Arry 22,157]

13 hours ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Good post that arry. Be a decent bit of reading in to each of those cases . Cheers

 

13 hours ago, Arry said:

Also in 1988 a Leopard Cat was shot and killed by a farmer at Widecombe-in-the-Moor, Dartmoor, Devon.

Think I may know a little about this one

Before I read this I had been told by a mate I have bought Ferret kits and Logs off and I also took him fishing that his relation had shot a big type cat at Widecombe-in the-Moor that killed his chickens.

Interestingly about that time I was shooting a lot of Foxes for their pelts. I was out with three others drawing covers with terriers on at least half a dozen different farms, my mates perms as he was a milk tanker driver and had permission on half of Devon I think Lol. Well I've no idea if this is the same cat but at a farm at Widecombe-in-the-Moor we were told on no account do any of you shoot the big cat. At the time I thought they told us it was  Ocelot. We never saw it but most of the cover was dense laurels could have easily got up out the way.

Cheers Arry

[Greyman 28,735]

Honest question sandy, do you trawl other forums on the net trying to disprove folk?? Or is this your main way to pass time,                                          he’s a typical leftie mate I’ve said it already and he just carry’s on confirming it, I gave him a bit of a hard time over brexit as I despise traitors and made it quite clear what I thought of him, ever since then I,ve been under constant attack from copying and pasting, I’m glad I,m not on Facebook I recon he’d track, trace and paste me to within an inch of my life, I,m considering asking a mod to bring in an anti pasting rule as I,m feeling so threatened by him, it’s just not right someone copying and pasting faster than I can read       

Edited October 12, 2020 by Greyman

[Greb147 6,809]

51 minutes ago, Gilbey said:

That evidence also shows lost/released big cats get caught or killed like folk have mentioned on here before. Not part of the arguing by the way

Those small cats and offspring would probably be mistaken by folk for fancy pets these days 

 

That has happened before so it could happen again.

Like you said though the escapees have been tracked and shot quite quickly. 

It would be interesting to see how long each of these lasted before getting shot. 

[sandymere 8,263]

55 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Honest question sandy, do you trawl other forums on the net trying to disprove folk?? Or is this your main way to pass time  

i don't disprove folk just unrealistic claims. Why do you ask? do you disagree with anything I've posted above? I'm just asking pertinent questions, comments that should be pretty simple to answer after all.

Do you not find it strange that with a population of 250, say annual death rate of a 1/4 so say 60 individuals, with an expected 50% succumbing to road deaths, so 25 to 30 road kills a year, two or three a month but never a body found.

Thats without the idea that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." (Carl Sagan)

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by sandymere

[sandymere 8,263]

5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Only thing I find strange is folk spending way too much time talking about/trying to disprove/search the net for evidence or lack of/or even thinking about stuff they don’t believe in, I mean do you do the same about fairy’s on another board? God on a religious forum? Big foot?Aliens on the geek boards? Or on the twitchers site finding out if the telling the truth  No I seriously doubt you do, yet you an your spineless side Kick are posting more than the guys with a real genuine intrestthe mind boggles

i don't have a side kick but i do have a genuine interest in the subject, why does my interest interest you?

Perhaps you do not like open discussion of the subject, would you prefer if everyone thought the same?

 

Perhaps if you posted on the subject rather than about me personally it would develop the discussion rather than being petty and personal.

Edited October 12, 2020 by sandymere

[Welsh_red 4,660]

3 minutes ago, sandymere said:

i don't have a side kick but i do have a genuine interest in the subject, why does my interest interest you?

Perhaps you do not like open discussion of the subject, would you prefer if everyone thought the same?

 

Perhaps if you posted on the subject rather than about me personally it would develop the discussion rather than being petty and personal.

Your an eloquent bloke that writes well . Just to satisfy my curiosity could you explain your "genuine interest" to me and how far it stretches . Are you interested in finding out the truth , are you interested in greymans angle on this , are you interested in proving people are lying etc . Im genuinly interested

[Greb147 6,809]

12 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Only thing I find strange is folk spending way too much time talking about/trying to disprove/search the net for evidence or lack of/or even thinking about stuff they don’t believe in, I mean do you do the same about fairy’s on another board? God on a religious forum? Big foot?Aliens on the geek boards? Or on the twitchers site finding out if the telling the truth  No I seriously doubt you do, yet you an your spineless side Kick are posting more than the guys with a real genuine intrestthe mind boggles

You could switch that around and say folk are spending too much time trying to prove and convince others that they exist with little hard evidence to suggest they do. 

Either they exist or they don't, it's up to those that claim they exist to prove they do if that's their intention. 

If people know they have seen them and know of their whereabouts and don't want to share it with anyone then good on them. 

Edited October 12, 2020 by Greb147

[Greb147 6,809]

At the end of the day there's clearly that much bullshit going around with the subject you can see why it brings ridicule. 

Just go back and look at the OP, that is clearly a house cat. 

[sandymere 8,263]

15 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Your an eloquent bloke that writes well . Just to satisfy my curiosity could you explain your "genuine interest" to me and how far it stretches . Are you interested in finding out the truth , are you interested in greymans angle on this , are you interested in proving people are lying etc . Im genuinly interested

Thank you, an elequant and well written question without recall to insult.

On my initial simple view of this subject i thought it sounded very feasible and personally I would love for there to be big cats roaming this country. Alas nature isn't simple and when i began to look with a little more scrutiny i began to see a lot of holes in the idea, the evidence and reasoning offered to support the assertions was not particularly compelling and certainly  lacked a good sensible solid basis. But I'm no expert so look to see if i or anyone else could give some evidence to fill those holes, hence my pointing them out. I'm not really interested in anyone's angle, rather in finding the truth. i answer hearsay with questions.

[lurchers 2,861]

I enjoy this thread as I said previous on this I seen 1 35yrs ago whilst I was 15 when out lamping,When I look at the time it was 1985 and there was 4 of us it’s when they had bought these exotic pets out of the exchange and mart paper.And like greyman has said they have probably seen how much it was costing to keep one then ya needed a license,so the simple thing to do was release and say nothing.Like I said before I was in the right place at the right time and can remember it like yesterday.We went to the police station to tell them and all the desk Sargent was interested in was us poaching.The way I look at these big cats they must of bred once they have traveled the distance they do.

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, lurchers said:

I enjoy this thread as I said previous on this I seen 1 35yrs ago whilst I was 15 when out lamping,When I look at the time it was 1985 and there was 4 of us it’s when they had bought these exotic pets out of the exchange and mart paper.And like greyman has said they have probably seen how much it was costing to keep one then ya needed a license,so the simple thing to do was release and say nothing.Like I said before I was in the right place at the right time and can remember it like yesterday.We went to the police station to tell them and all the desk Sargent was interested in was us poaching.The way I look at these big cats they must of bred once they have traveled the distance they do.

Where abouts did you see one then? 

A good few on here have claimed to see one or know of people who have, they can't be as elusive as we think and the numbers must be higher than predicted. 

To me that makes it all the more puzzling why the case hasn't been solved yet. 

[lurchers 2,861]

Spennymoor Co Durham and it was the beginning of November 1985,as it was days before my 15th birthday and at the time it was a hot thing in the northern echo newspaper up here.They called it the Durham puma and they made a program about it.When I watch the program it showed dots on the map of people up and down the country that has seen one.At that time going off the program there must of been 7 I think up and down the country in the November.So there is something about it.

[lurchers 2,861]

5 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Where abouts did you see one then? 

A good few on here have claimed to see one or know of people who have, they can't be as elusive as we think and the numbers must be higher than predicted. 

To me that makes it all the more puzzling why the case hasn't been solved yet. 

 

Just now, lurchers said:

Spennymoor Co Durham and it was the beginning of November 1985,as it was days before my 15th birthday and at the time it was a hot thing in the northern echo newspaper up here.They called it the Durham puma and they made a program about it.When I watch the program it showed dots on the map of people up and down the country that has seen one.At that time going off the program there must of been 7 I think up and down the country in the November.So there is something about it.

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[sandymere 8,263]

1 minute ago, W. Katchum said:

Ohh boo looks like we got another victim, your calling me petty yet you keep coming in a thread that clearly none of the folk your actual trying to converse with blatantly don’t want you , to try an get a rise

 

 

fcukkng petty he said

LOL, I've never been a victim.