Big Cat Sighting

[Greyman 28,086]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Just a joke fella, in all honesty though I feel that this thread will be alive for a very long time. 

Dead right mate it will go on for years, but every year it will become more normal and more accepted, these podcasts are bringing so many witnesses forward it’s just a matter of time before one of them pulls out a full 100% clear piccy

[shaaark 10,694]

4 hours ago, Greyman said:

Don’t know if you have the attention span Greb, but if you do have a listen to this for an hour, might help you understand what is actually happening and how we got to were we are today,  https://beardedtit.podbean.com/e/big-cats-on-the-loose-in-britain-ft-rick-minter/

Interesting listening that G. 

I bought 'The Missing Lynx' about two months ago. About Britain's lost big cats and other megafauna, that once existed in britain until relatively recently. Very easy for big cats to exist very happily in today's britain 'without' being seen. And let's be honest, half the members on here, including the ones that will NOT believe it, walk around without really seeing much anyway lol

Edited August 12, 2020 by shaaark

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

13 hours ago, Greyman said:

Pet savannah cat, as long as it’s a second cross no rules to own one  

Won't last long strolling about in the open like that be like Xmas and birthday rolled into one for someone's pet staffie

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

8 hours ago, Greyman said:

Dead right mate it will go on for years, but every year it will become more normal and more accepted, these podcasts are bringing so many witnesses forward it’s just a matter of time before one of them pulls out a full 100% clear piccy

What do you expect the pic to be? A cat that's been born in the wild or an escapee? And what species big cats to me are, lions tigers leopards jaguars and pumas maybe cheetahs not lynx or servals etc

[Blackmag 6,038]

Have you seen the night vision footage of a big cat  from Staffordshire greyman 

Edited August 15, 2020 by Blackmag

[Greyman 28,086]

19 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

Have you seen the night vision footage of a big cat  from Staffordshire greyman 

Don’t think so just had another domestic cat from the Cotswolds, but no night vision do you have a link to it

[Greyman 28,086]

On 12/08/2020 at 22:26, JDHUNTING said:

What do you expect the pic to be? A cat that's been born in the wild or an escapee? And what species big cats to me are, lions tigers leopards jaguars and pumas maybe cheetahs not lynx or servals etc

Kill sites will show you if an animal is native or recently introduced, in the 70s on Bodmin moor they lost 100s of sheep, that’s because the cats doing it were recently released, had not been taught to hunt by a parent and behaved like a fat kid in a cake shop, roll forward 50 years and the cats appear to be killing one large animal a week killing them by ambush and using a single bite to the neck or throat, they have also moved away from sheep and favour deer as there main food source, these animals appear to have been totally naturalised so I would suggest they were born here and shown the ropes by mum, regarding species that have survived here we have three, the puma, leopard and lynx,  the leopards are black and not spotty as you would expect and in recent years I would guess the puma is doing best as the percentage of sightings matching puma have risen quite a bit in the last few years, there were other types of cats released but they are either to specialised to survive here or there were not enough of them to breed, the three that survived would survive in almost any country in the world as they are generalists not specialists in there hunting habits and would be as happy scavenging from a bin as killing a mouse,bird or deer

[Greyman 28,086]

On 12/08/2020 at 22:23, JDHUNTING said:

Won't last long strolling about in the open like that be like Xmas and birthday rolled into one for someone's pet staffie

They get lifted for the money as well mate that bold cat in the pic above doing a bit of plastering with me is worth around 2k I believe, so is never allowed out, that savannah would be around the same shillings I would think

[RossM 8,115]

Saw this this morning, probably a dug but was quite large to be fair, approximately 3 miles from any road, track was well used but wouldn’t say well used by walkers and joggers 

[EDDIE B 3,159]

On 15/08/2020 at 10:46, Greyman said:

Don’t think so just had another domestic cat from the Cotswolds, but no night vision do you have a link to it

This must be it

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/12402344/dramatic-footage-shows-big-cat-prowling-farmland-as-experts-left-stumped-by-mysterious-sighting/

[Greyman 28,086]

On 16/08/2020 at 11:06, RossM said:

Saw this this morning, probably a dug but was quite large to be fair, approximately 3 miles from any road, track was well used but wouldn’t say well used by walkers and joggers 

That is the main problem with tracking in this country, grounds to hard ,to soft or someone tramples your footprint, I think that’s a dog that has been stood on by the heel of a shoe

[DIDO.1 22,583]

The one bit I can't understand is why beaters don't drive them to guns at anytime. Almost every piece of countryside in the UK must be either hunted with hounds or have teams of beaters through it. If not every piece it must be a fair proportion. 

Places like bodmin are well hunted with large numbers of people stationed at vantage points with binoculars. Why don't they get seen on hunting /shooting days? 

[Greyman 28,086]

6 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

The one bit I can't understand is why beaters don't drive them to guns at anytime. Almost every piece of countryside in the UK must be either hunted with hounds or have teams of beaters through it. If not every piece it must be a fair proportion. 

Places like bodmin are well hunted with large numbers of people stationed at vantage points with binoculars. Why don't they get seen on hunting /shooting days? 

They are mate we have had members on here that have seen them break cover before the hounds came through and 2 hunts in the south west I no have flushed them, one of them on several occasions, general opinion is they don’t do any harm we don’t want to attract unwanted attention so say nothing and leave them be, also fox hounds are very broken to cats for obvious reasons,

[shovel leaner 7,650]

42 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

The one bit I can't understand is why beaters don't drive them to guns at anytime. Almost every piece of countryside in the UK must be either hunted with hounds or have teams of beaters through it. If not every piece it must be a fair proportion. 

Places like bodmin are well hunted with large numbers of people stationed at vantage points with binoculars. Why don't they get seen on hunting /shooting days? 

This is my argument exactly. The area I keeper has had lots of sightings of big cats . But I am the guy who is out there day and night with digisights and thermal spotter , binoculars, and I’m actively looking for deer and foxes . I also pay attention to footprints in the mud . We have the hounds through a few times and through the season we beat the woods out . And personally I’ve not seen anything. Yet random dog walkers see them all the time ?

          Now you would think that makes me a huge sceptic . But a couple of guys I know who were out doing terrier work on a hunt day , positioned themselves at the end of a wood while it was being drawn way in the distance. They told me it went eerily silent , then a big cat walked out of the end of the wood and disappeared into cover , they both saw it and they kept it to themselves. I’ve got no reason to disbelieve them as they have no agenda, and are solid sort of guys who don’t bullshit . I’ve also seen photos of a big cat shot by a keeper , who because it’s not on his ticket and wants to keep his license has not gone public. So although I’m still on the fence , and will be until I see one myself , I have an open mind .  I have also met Greyman and his friend who gives talks on big cats and they come across as informed and rational people . But why on a small island like ours , with the population we have and everybody armed with cameras on their phones not got better footage ?Yet a film crew can capture images of endangered snow leopards in the Himalayas, or mountain lions in North America ? These areas are vast . Who knows ?

[Greyman 28,086]

2 hours ago, shovel leaner said:

This is my argument exactly. The area I keeper has had lots of sightings of big cats . But I am the guy who is out there day and night with digisights and thermal spotter , binoculars, and I’m actively looking for deer and foxes . I also pay attention to footprints in the mud . We have the hounds through a few times and through the season we beat the woods out . And personally I’ve not seen anything. Yet random dog walkers see them all the time ?

          Now you would think that makes me a huge sceptic . But a couple of guys I know who were out doing terrier work on a hunt day , positioned themselves at the end of a wood while it was being drawn way in the distance. They told me it went eerily silent , then a big cat walked out of the end of the wood and disappeared into cover , they both saw it and they kept it to themselves. I’ve got no reason to disbelieve them as they have no agenda, and are solid sort of guys who don’t bullshit . I’ve also seen photos of a big cat shot by a keeper , who because it’s not on his ticket and wants to keep his license has not gone public. So although I’m still on the fence , and will be until I see one myself , I have an open mind .  I have also met Greyman and his friend who gives talks on big cats and they come across as informed and rational people . But why on a small island like ours , with the population we have and everybody armed with cameras on their phones not got better footage ?Yet a film crew can capture images of endangered snow leopards in the Himalayas, or mountain lions in North America ? These areas are vast . Who knows ?

Some good points there mate, and reminds me of a conversation I had recently with a group of people that do look for clues and record sightings, as you can imaging it’s probably more frustrating for us than anyone, but having spent a few years on the case many of my findings are a bit different than the others  one of the big things I have noticed that is probably down to low population density is that what ever it is I,m tracking/looking for never seems to stay in the same place for more than about a fortnight, I think this is down to many reasons but it seems to be pretty much the case , so the main problem is people see a cat, make a report, do a bit of googling then come into contact with someone like me that then goes and puts up a camera, but the animal is long gone by this time, so I have been making notes of dates the sightings happen and this winter I will be attempting to have the cameras out before the cat turns up, I have two areas one is very transient and seems to be visited in the last week of November first week of December and one happens in may every year, the may visitor seems to stay a little longer and possibly has a cub with it, up were you are the sightings seem a bit more random but there are certainly a lot of them and it may be a denser population up there, here are a couple of shots all taken along the same ridge line as your shoot is on I no they won’t convince the sceptics but they have all been sized and scaled and all fit the size dimensions of a leopard/puma size cat the tail sticking out the hedge is from a video but I can’t upload vids sorry but it was 22” tall