Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Greyman said: Go to episode 9 of the podcast and listen to what the dr doing the work has to say on the subject mate it’s easier than me trying to explain without some fat twat shouting everything down from the sidelines Here’s an exert from a paper written by ,then about the very same Dr Hemingway with whom I have personally spoken with .He’s very open about his work being used and twisted to suit a certain fantasy and says it’s ongoing . “Most British Big Cat "evidence" is in the form of paw-prints and kills. These have been shown to tracking and trapping experts with experience of big cats in the wild in other countries. These experts are people whose livelihoods depend on them being able to identify big cat signs and track and even trap or shoot big cats. They identified almost all of the paw-prints as dog, with the remainder being too indistinct for identification. In the cases of supposed ABC sheep kills, those big cat experts noted that the pattern is consistent with dogs - lacerations to the neck and belly with the skin being removed from the neck and with the belly area being eaten. Dog packs tend to kill by evisceration. Big cats go for the throat or neck and leave four deep puncture wonds. Either the neck is broken or the prey is strangled. Big cats do not leave gashes in the throat. Dogs kill more messily and leave gashes. It would seem that most of these livestock kills are caused by dogs running out of control or gone feral. During 2013, Dr Andrew Hemmings, a senior lecturer in animal science at the Royal Agricultural University in Cirencester, analysed the remains of purported "big cat kills" in Gloucestershire and neighbouring counties. Dr Hemmings examined 20 animal skeletons that bore unusual teethmarks. The remains were of livestock and deer, and had been found by farmers, landowners and volunteers in unusual circumstances that suggested they may have been killed by a big cat. He studied the bones in order to identify which animals had eaten the prey. In 15% of samples, he found that the "tooth pit" markings made by the predator's canine teeth had been inflicted by an animal larger than those living in the British countryside, such as badgers and foxes. Dogs' canine teeth can leave behind similar markings, so Dr Hemmings also examined the markings made by the carnassial (cheek) teeth used for cutting flesh. The carnassials of big cats are wider apart than in dogs, which should eliminate dogs as the predator in in some kills. Dr Hemmings was unable to reach a firm conclusion in 17 out of 20 cases.” Just to put a balanced spin on what we are told Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 19 hours ago, Greyman said: Go to episode 9 of the podcast and listen to what the dr doing the work has to say on the subject mate it’s easier than me trying to explain without some fat twat shouting everything down from the sidelines Go to episode 9 of the podcast.....???????????????????? Not a clue, some basic instruction how that works or a link would be appreciated!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,203 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, Deker said: Go to episode 9 of the podcast.....???????????????????? Not a clue, some basic instruction how that works or a link would be appreciated!!! Sorry I,m not techie mate I just right bigcatconversation into google and away I go, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,629 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Deker said: Go to episode 9 of the podcast.....???????????????????? Not a clue, some basic instruction how that works or a link would be appreciated!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Much appreciated! Thank you! Is this just audio, are their pictures/video? Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,162 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Im sure all the big cat enthusiasts, are using this method, with their trail cams Photo Diary: Baited Trail Cameras at Auchnerran reveal surprising visitors - Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust WWW.GWCT.ORG.UK 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,203 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Deker said: Pics and vids are in the refs and links section mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,203 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, EDDIE B said: Im sure all the big cat enthusiasts, are using this method, with their trail cams Photo Diary: Baited Trail Cameras at Auchnerran reveal surprising visitors - Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust WWW.GWCT.ORG.UK 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Francie, said: Im hunting 22 years fd,whats the point in putting stuff on here when youve boys crabbing you ffs look at the other thread for instance supposed hunters slagging off another hunter because hes not afraid to hunt on an they couldnt take it,jokers Fair comment Francie . Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, foxdropper said: Fair comment Francie . Theres a few men on here know me in person,just met with one couple weeks ago who is a v good terrier man an does not boast of his outings online,hes on here, iv no need for my ego to be stroked, but i might stick a wee story or two up in future fd 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,675 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Francie, said: Theres a few men on here know me in person,just met with one couple weeks ago who is a v good terrier man an does not boast of his outings online,hes on here, iv no need for my ego to be stroked, but i might stick a wee story or two up in future fd It's the attention seekers in all aspects of fieldsport activities that have done the most damage, for everyone 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Bakerboy said: It's the attention seekers in all aspects of fieldsport activities that have done the most damage, for everyone Its given the fuel for the fire bb,some of the vids i seen were just not called for,no wonder joe public hates hunting,but f**k joe public too,they wont be taking the moral high ground with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: It's the attention seekers in all aspects of fieldsport activities that have done the most damage, for everyone I think for some it’s just a fleeting pastime that comes to end mate .I’d say maybe that type has nothing to lose by posting things best kept to themselves . Nothing wrong with legit discussion ,pics and vids but we know there's another side to it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,675 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, foxdropper said: I think for some it’s just a fleeting pastime that comes to end mate .I’d say maybe that type has nothing to lose by posting things best kept to themselves . Nothing wrong with legit discussion ,pics and vids but we know there's another side to it. I agree to a certain extent mate but there's been and are some lifelong fkn idiots in the game mate and some more interested in the fame than the game 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,130 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 There's always been arseholes f****n things for everyone else... long ,long time before any acts were passed...news of the world,Cook report,list goes on...some of the biggest pricks I've ever had the misfortune to go out ,have all been 20 plus yrs older than myself... thankfully not everyone, but a very large proportion of them...you know soon as you step out into a field...I'd not spend another minute of my time around them 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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