mackem 26,261 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Nicepix said: I don't disagree with the claim of up to 1,000 by Minter. It is the way that quote is phrased that triggers my suspicion. Journalists are always twisting things. The word fierce is I think a journo's word. So I wonder if they might have amended a lower suggested estimate with a high ceiling of 1,000 with "up to "? No, Minter is the UK's numero uno big cat expert/author/podcaster, he broke the 1000 big cats down into species mainly leopards, yes journalese could be fierce but the number is Minters, he also said he has seen a 10/10 bit of footage of a mountain lion filmed in the UK but can't divulge it due to poachers and scaring hikers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,261 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nicepix said: So I wonder if they might have amended a lower suggested estimate with a high ceiling of 1,000 with "up to "? If a journalist misquoted you you would pull them up on it, that 1000 is quoted on a few pages online, he hasn't reduced it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Try zero ,thats 0 for any divvies and spectrum readers .No amount of speel by anyone counts for shite without proof .The very same proof that is so top secret that it becomes myth and legend ,the end goal for deluded cat hunters . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, mackem said: If a journalist misquoted you you would pull them up on it, that 1000 is quoted on a few pages online, he hasn't reduced it. You can't pull them up after publication on things like this. We had a dog that should never have been selected, but it was. 6 months later it had to go and was rehomed with a journo. Basically the dog was demotivated and wouldn't put the effort in. He ran a short article in the local rag about getting a failed police dog as a pet. That story was picked up by the nationals and exagerated. The international English language papers in Europe added even more. Within a week we had journos from Oz and the States asking for quotes about the dog who by then had apparently gone to sleep while chasing a criminal. That is why I am suspicious about newspaper claims. Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 I’m a tad suspicious of anyone who sees large cats tbh and I’m gobsmacked at the numbers they apparently believe are here .Be worth setting up a trap line soon as fur prices are decent I’m told . 3 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,708 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, mackem said: Have you a link to that please? Will have another look when I get a spare few mins 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,261 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, Nicepix said: That is why I am suspicious about newspaper claims. I am more suspicious of a bloke who claims 1000 big cats in the UK, mainly leopard, writes a book on them, does lectures, gives interviews,has a documentary, but no 100% proof 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,629 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 How many big cats is he claiming are out there ? Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,261 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: How many big cats is he claiming are out there ? 1000 mainly leopards. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Robbusher 1,563 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 I think if they were here someone would tree them with pack of hounds everyone got a camera phone now in there pocket or someone’s dogs would have found cubs but I’d love to be proved wrong 1 Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, mackem said: I am more suspicious of a bloke who claims 1000 big cats in the UK, mainly leopard, writes a book on them, does lectures, gives interviews,has a documentary, but no 100% proof so he's trying to convince people that 1000 leopards are wandering around the uk..with no proof.. It's like this crazy woman who seen bigfoot in Scotland crazy cnut needs sectioning The search for British Bigfoot THEFACE.COM What is the mysterious humanoid that keeps being seen in British woodland? James McMahon... Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Robbusher said: I think if they were here someone would tree them with pack of hounds everyone got a camera phone now in there pocket or someone’s dogs would have found cubs but I’d love to be proved wrong Would hounds chase the scent of one? If there on fox? Link to post Share on other sites
Robbusher 1,563 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 I’ve seen plenty of fox only dogs nail in woods/cover won’t even chase rabbit deer hare there never gonna outrun the hounds Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,708 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) @mackem 3 hours ago, mackem said: Have you a link to that please? Big cats in the UK are all but proven. You tube. Wouldn't know how to put a link up if you explained it to me half a dozen times!! Lol Yep, just watching it again now. Carl's the knob, and callum is the real tosser. Just thought I'd clear that up for you, in my own mind. That's just how I took that clip. Regardless of others opinions lol. Edited November 24, 2022 by shaaark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,261 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 6 hours ago, shaaark said: @mackem Big cats in the UK are all but proven. You tube. Wouldn't know how to put a link up if you explained it to me half a dozen times!! Lol Yep, just watching it again now Thank you, I just watched it, Big cats in the UK are "all but proven" which is a catchy title but bad wording, "all but proven" to anyone with basic comprehension of the English language all but means not basically so a better title would have been "No proof of big cats in the UK" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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