Accip74 7,112 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nicepix said: But the sheep are there and their behaviour is one of the things that you have to take into consideration when forming an opinion. The picture is not clear. You can get an impression of size, shape and gait from it, plus a vague idea of tone or colour. At best you can dismiss what it clearly isn't, but you can't say what it clearly is. But the sheep's reaction is clear and sheep don't behave like that when there is a threat. So for me the animal is either one of their own kind or something they have become accustomed to that does not normally interfere with their lives. You don’t think the movement & shape looks feline/lynx like at all? much more goat like? Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: Is it the grey pixelated smudge moving behind the sheep I'm msnt to be looking at? Serious question as I have no clue going from the above posts? Really mate? It’s clear enough on my iPad. It’s clearly a lynx or a goat Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,614 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Seen talk it could be a calf Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Accip74 said: You don’t think the movement & shape looks feline/lynx like at all? much more goat like? Sigh! If the animal was as clearly distinguishable as you think it is there would be no need for debate on here. As I said before,it is easier to discount what it isn't and it clearly isn't a predator from the sheep's reactions. There are two sheep happily grazing just yards from it. It also looks to be grey and doesn't seem to be feline in its movement in my opinion. But, if you want to believe that a grey smudge is a lynx, then go ahead. Believe all you want. For all I know it could be Rudolph videoed by Santa as a prank. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,866 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: Is it the grey pixelated smudge moving behind the sheep I'm msnt to be looking at? Serious question as I have no clue going from the above posts? That's all I can see Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Nicepix said: Sigh! If the animal was as clearly distinguishable as you think it is there would be no need for debate on here. As I said before,it is easier to discount what it isn't and it clearly isn't a predator from the sheep's reactions. There are two sheep happily grazing just yards from it. It also looks to be grey and doesn't seem to be feline in its movement in my opinion. But, if you want to believe that a grey smudge is a lynx, then go ahead. Believe all you want. For all I know it could be Rudolph videoed by Santa as a prank. Sorry mate is it time for your nap? Its not that I really want to believe it any more than I can't believe it based on preconceived bias. I just like to keep an open mind & to me the movement looks like this, a lynx. But I'm sure you must be right 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, MH1 said: That's all I can see If you look more closely you'll see that it is definitely Price Andrew in that car Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, MH1 said: That's all I can see Even nice pix can see it's a goat, so it must be your screens Any other ideas folks? Bob tailed dog, baby giraffe or man on all fours? Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,866 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Shame the bloke didn't try and chase it to get and definite image ! Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Just now, Accip74 said: Sorry mate is it time for your nap? Its not that I really want to believe it any more than I can't believe it based on preconceived bias. I just like to keep an open mind & to me the movement looks like this, a lynx. But I'm sure you must be right Well, until we have a body or clear proof I don't really see how you can form the opinion that you have based on such a poor video? Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,093 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicepix said: But the sheep are there and their behaviour is one of the things that you have to take into consideration when forming an opinion. The picture is not clear. You can get an impression of size, shape and gait from it, plus a vague idea of tone or colour. At best you can dismiss what it clearly isn't, but you can't say what it clearly is. But the sheep's reaction is clear and sheep don't behave like that when there is a threat. So for me the animal is either one of their own kind or something they have become accustomed to that does not normally interfere with their lives. Not coming down on either side of this one but there are cases the world over of cats walking right in among a flock of sheep, pigs even dogs and taking one before they even no it’s there, have a listen to the podcast we’re the sheepfarmer had one killed and eaten in his yard at night, when all the house windows were open and there was a sheepdog and gundog that both slept through it all, these are a bit a a rarity but had a couple of foals recently Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Greyman said: Not coming down on either side of this one but there are cases the world over of cats walking right in among a flock of sheep, pigs even dogs and taking one before they even no it’s there, have a listen to the podcast we’re the sheepfarmer had one killed and eaten in his yard at night, when all the house windows were open and there was a sheepdog and gundog that both slept through it all, these are a bit a a rarity but had a couple of foals recently I have heard of this in respect of sleeping animals, but I still cannot believe that those sheep totally ignored a large predator walking amongst them. And until there is more proof I tend to err on the side of it not being a predator. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,093 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, MH1 said: Shame the bloke didn't try and chase it to get and definite image ! Or even just look for a pugmark, even a grainy video has much more clout if you can find a footprint to support your claim, these were taken by a member on here after seeing a cat at night he went back in the morning and took these, makes it harder to say he,s wrong 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,093 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nicepix said: I have heard of this in respect of sleeping animals, but I still cannot believe that those sheep totally ignored a large predator walking amongst them. And until there is more proof I tend to err on the side of it not being a predator. Question everything mate only a fool takes others word as gospel Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Question everything mate only a fool takes others word as gospel What your gut feeling from the vid Greyman? Link to post Share on other sites
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