Greyman 29,396 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/big-cat-puma-south-derbyshire-2779322.amp another sceptic converted 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,925 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 30 yards away,four of them saw it but none thought to get a pic or video,and they didn't want to be named?Fake news or its magic mushroom season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,396 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, mackem said: 30 yards away,four of them saw it but none thought to get a pic or video,and they didn't want to be named?Fake news or its magic mushroom season. Or they have spent so much time making silly comments to people about it not being true there now to embarrassed to be named, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,925 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Its not exactly evidence of anything to be honest,i have fired off an e-mail to durham university about the DNA results from the fortean association showing leopard hair was from a cat living wild in the UK,i will keep you updated,you mentioned a guy who has a leopard skin from a snared cat,any chance you can get a sliver of skin and a few hairs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dinosaurs 2,115 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hmmm one thought it was a giant hare!!! Atb Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,937 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dinosaurs said: Hmmm one thought it was a giant hare!!! Atb Maybe a manx one Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,396 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, mackem said: Its not exactly evidence of anything to be honest,i have fired off an e-mail to durham university about the DNA results from the fortean association showing leopard hair was from a cat living wild in the UK,i will keep you updated,you mentioned a guy who has a leopard skin from a snared cat,any chance you can get a sliver of skin and a few hairs? I will ask but very much doubt it, as he is a member on here who wished to not get involved in all this, but FairPlay to you for looking for proper answers, I doth my cap to you, another thing they do in aus but I don’t think anyone has done here yet is to send leopard stools off for testing that have been taken from a Leopards cage, in Australia every one has came back as dog?. I no of other people that have positive dna results but they have sent there gear off abroad for testing so although positive not in a uk lab?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gilbey 1,478 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Dinosaurs said: Hmmm one thought it was a giant hare!!! Atb I'm "sceptical" he knows what a hare is Edited April 24, 2019 by Gilbey 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,937 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Gilbey said: I'm "sceptical" he knows what a hare is Well it was 7 pm, light was probably starting to fade, their distance judgement might be as shit as most hare coursers, and excitent does sometimes play tricks on your mind 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,396 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I get quite a few polecats on my trail cameras and either no one believes me and try,s to tell me they are lost ferrets, or look at me like I have 6 heads before asking me what a polecat is, during my nearly 60 years on this planet I have seen 4 live otters how many people even country folk could say the same,? we have to remember in all of this that most of these people are towns folk who would struggle to identify common bird species that have gone for a walk because the sun is out, they are not on safari in Africa wandering round with a camera poised at a moments notice expecting to see a leopard, and I must confess myself to going into a bit of shock when I first saw one and did not even think about cameras, dogs taking footprints, or out else in fact I was probably 10 mins down the road afterwards before a normal thought process kicked in and I started thinking wtf why did,not I do this or that, been waiting years since to be back in the same position and probably never will 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,535 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would think that the public in general getting this subject between their teeth would be the worst possible thing for folk like you Greyman ?....every Tom Dick and Harry will have their " experiences " and it quickly becomes a mockery i would imagine the smaller the circle of genuine people interested in the subject the better in terms of reaching the truth. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Gilbey 1,478 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Greyman said: I get quite a few polecats on my trail cameras and either no one believes me and try,s to tell me they are lost ferrets, or look at me like I have 6 heads before asking me what a polecat is, during my nearly 60 years on this planet I have seen 4 live otters how many people even country folk could say the same,? we have to remember in all of this that most of these people are towns folk who would struggle to identify common bird species that have gone for a walk because the sun is out, they are not on safari in Africa wandering round with a camera poised at a moments notice expecting to see a leopard, and I must confess myself to going into a bit of shock when I first saw one and did not even think about cameras, dogs taking footprints, or out else in fact I was probably 10 mins down the road afterwards before a normal thought process kicked in and I started thinking wtf why did,not I do this or that, been waiting years since to be back in the same position and probably never will bloody hell your dead right there and its not just townies. Born and bred country folk/farmers as well. Similar thing with polecats but the lass found one hammered into the road and changed her mind. "a unusual dead bird in my garden" = Dunnock. "what bird makes that noise" = Oystercatcher. "we've been watching Herons diving and swimming after fish" = Goosanders lol. also we've got the odd feral cat here at work and you rarely see them, mostly when they've got young, so? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,937 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gilbey said: bloody hell your dead right there and its not just townies. Born and bred country folk/farmers as well. Similar thing with polecats but the lass found one hammered into the road and changed her mind. "a unusual dead bird in my garden" = Dunnock. "what bird makes that noise" = Oystercatcher. "we've been watching Herons diving and swimming after fish" = Goosanders lol. also we've got the odd feral cat here at work and you rarely see them, mostly when they've got young, so? Yep, you're not wrong there. I live in a fairly rural location and, I often here people identifying jackdaws as blackbirds, buzzards as kestrels etc etc!!! Most people, unless they are really into wildlife really haven't much of a clue 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 22,763 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, shaaark said: Yep, you're not wrong there. I live in a fairly rural location and, I often here people identifying jackdaws as blackbirds, buzzards as kestrels etc etc!!! Most people, unless they are really into wildlife really haven't much of a clue Absolutely agree that's why I believe men that have lived, hunted and farmed the countryside when they have told me of their sightings. Cheers Arry 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,396 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Anything look or sound familiar 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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