Big Cat Sighting

[Daniel cain 45,136]

Greyman if its at all possible, I'd be interested in maybe having a wander out with you sometime over the next few months ?day/night,  I'm interested in what your trying to prove mate. It's easy for folks to pick holes when sat behind a screen.... If it means proving you wrong I'd of thought one of the haters would of taken you up on your offer by now??? They quick enough to try and get a raise out of you.... Not man enough to come see for theirselves..... That speaks volumes imo lol.... Easier to just troll your posts....... In return I will sort you out a few sessions on the river wye barbel/pike fishing. Atvb sean

[scothunter 12,609]

7 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Greyman if its at all possible, I'd be interested in maybe having a wander out with you sometime over the next few months ?day/night,  I'm interested in what your trying to prove mate. It's easy for folks to pick holes when sat behind a screen.... If it means proving you wrong I'd of thought one of the haters would of taken you up on your offer by now??? They quick enough to try and get a raise out of you.... Not man enough to come see for theirselves..... That speaks volumes imo lol.... Easier to just troll your posts....... In return I will sort you out a few sessions on the river wye barbel/pike fishing. Atvb sean

Haters! Bit OTT that mate.

[Greyman 28,212]

1 minute ago, Kerny92 said:

How would they find out you posted a picture or two on here, nobody knows who you are pal. 

Because within the group of people I share data with many of them are better at scanning the web than me and if you search big cat sightings enough you would come to this, then you would see pictures that were shared in confidence, but more important than that is, I am a man of my word and if I told you I would not share stuff, it would not make me right just because I never got caught, I don't have a lot in life mate so my word actually means something to me and finally some of those people who have asked me not to share stuff are on this site, just because the doubters make the most noise on here does not make them the majority I am I touch with some members through email, private message and some I,ve actually gone and met, so even if they never found out I would of shafted them over still, making me ??? 

[Daniel cain 45,136]

Just now, scothunter said:

Haters! Bit OTT that mate.

You know what I mean scot?the man has offered to show folk the evidence.... Can't be no fairer than that in my book.... What's any off us got to lose other than a few hrs of our time??? I understand some folks like your good self live 10 hrs or more away but I'm only over the bridge from him and genuinely interested in what he's found/has to say. f**k it, a nice walk a chat and a cold one after it....... Nothing to lose imo?

[ChrisJones 7,975]

4 minutes ago, Greyman said:

There is a hosting website called Vimeo that shows loads of good footage and a guy on there called David Neil's who has the most amazing mountain lion footage, he,s been camera trapping 5 days a week for 25 years, really worth looking up mate, he has been a massive help to me even though we are in totally different parts of the world, but if anyone can help you get the picture your after he is the man, interestingly though he has hundreds of hours of footage he says in all those years he has only seen the cats on 6 occasions for a few seconds each time,  I think the amount of cats with trackers on them allows you to work out were to put the cameras as there are a few spots were several territory's overlap and these seem to be the spots to aim for, goodluck

Thanks for that GM!

I'm familiar with Vimeo. They have some fantastic footage on there for anyone that likes a high-quality documentary. David Neil isn't someone I'm familiar with but I'll be having a look. I just have the one camera in my yard, at the moment, as that's where I saw the bobcat. I've had deer and coyote on it since but it's mainly the neighbour's dogs and the kids shortcutting through the property.

With the number of mule deer and whitetails that I see at all times of the day, I wouldn't have to walk too far to stick up a camera but I'll need to invest in some additional gear to make it worthwhile.

Plenty of spots I can put them too. Dixie Forest spans 170 miles across the state and is perfect cat habitat. An abundance of food and hiding places!

 

[dave88 1,565]

7 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

You know what I mean scot?the man has offered to show folk the evidence.... Can't be no fairer than that in my book.... What's any off us got to lose other than a few hrs of our time??? I understand some folks like your good self live 10 hrs or more away but I'm only over the bridge from him and genuinely interested in what he's found/has to say. f**k it, a nice walk a chat and a cold one after it....... Nothing to lose imo?

Fair play to ya mate

[ChrisJones 7,975]

14 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

You know what I mean scot?the man has offered to show folk the evidence.... Can't be no fairer than that in my book.... What's any off us got to lose other than a few hrs of our time??? I understand some folks like your good self live 10 hrs or more away but I'm only over the bridge from him and genuinely interested in what he's found/has to say. f**k it, a nice walk a chat and a cold one after it....... Nothing to lose imo?

I'd have a crack if it wasn't a 2-hour drive with a 14-hour flight at the end of it! Maybe next time I'm over there on 'vacation' I can turn up in my khakis with my Hawaiian shirt and comedically oversized camera and hat!

Edited March 27, 2018 by ChrisJones

[Greyman 28,212]

11 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Greyman if its at all possible, I'd be interested in maybe having a wander out with you sometime over the next few months ?day/night,  I'm interested in what your trying to prove mate. It's easy for folks to pick holes when sat behind a screen.... If it means proving you wrong I'd of thought one of the haters would of taken you up on your offer by now??? They quick enough to try and get a raise out of you.... Not man enough to come see for theirselves..... That speaks volumes imo lol.... Easier to just troll your posts....... In return I will sort you out a few sessions on the river wye barbel/pike fishing. Atvb sean

I,m assuming as you mention the Wye your not to far away so yes I would definately be up for a walk out and I,ve never caught a barbel before, I don't know if you would rather wait until autumn as the summer month,s tend to be a lot leaner, as in they seem to move out into crops in the warmer months and feed on smaller stuff like the young of others and the tons of dopey pheasants put down, were as in winter they Move back to the same areas each year and take larger prey, also leave a few footprints  in the soft mud, that's why I only seem to find the hollowed out deer from sept to march and the papers get lots of sightings between March and September, also like to say FairPlay to you for being willing to meet me, if you think I,m a total nutcase after at least you bothered to find out for yourself , if I disappear for a while I,m not ignoring you I just don't have Internet when I,m not on my iPad indoors cheers again 

[Daniel cain 45,136]

Sound mate, river opens back up 16th of June so your welcome any time after that?I'm easy, let me know when your free next few months and we go walkabout atb. 

[Kerny92 1,246]

But what have you and the folk who supposedly have the pictures got to lose? It's not as though anyone off here will know the location of the pics or anything like that.

[CushtyJook 1,097]

Good offer boys hope you both meet and keep us posted look forward to hearing it 

[forest of dean redneck 11,543]

29 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Sound mate, river opens back up 16th of June so your welcome any time after that?I'm easy, let me know when your free next few months and we go walkabout atb. 

Don’t you actually have to catch fish to be fishing, ??

for what it’s worth I’ve met greyman and he is as sane as me ,Not much of a character reference I know .

[Meece 1,957]

2 hours ago, Greyman said:

regarding the lack of trapping and snaring, two things, firstly the numbers are so small to set out to trap one would involve a hell of a lot of time and effort  and secondly after you have caught it in a snare do you go round shouting from the roofs what you have done, I speak with lots of the members on here through pm as they don't want to be involved in the constant sniping and  I can assure you that someone has a full leopard pelt hanging on his wall that he caught in a snare, he does not want to tell anybody about it and if I betrayed people's trust they would never show me or tell me anything  ever again, so I have a lot of pictures and stuff that I,m not allowed to share because I'm asked not to or I don't own it and despite the accusations of lying and fabricating things I am pretty straight down the line,  I,m just a small cog in a bigger machine mate, but I can assure you this thing is real and will be publicly accepted within a the next couple of years, 

This virtually the same word speak that the Boar man that I know uses..... Xyz has shot one but it's a secret and this mystery shooter has searched him out and confided in him not to let on who what and where. Abc has shot lots of them and the Boar  man has Been sworn to secrecy. I sit on the fence as to whether big cats are out there but the kind of clandestine secrecy in all of it is not helping.  Either they are out there or there not. If they are, and person A can see them or shoot them then so can persons B, C and D. People driving cars ect collide with all manner of species of birds and animals and if you planted a big cat, it would be pictured and put on Facebook or other media or the public services would be called in to deal with the consequences of vehicle accidents. There would be positively identifiable remains not something that could possibly have been something that might have been something a couple of months ago on the other hand it could have been one of Bette Lynch or CAT Slatters cast off  fake leopard fur jackets.  All it would take to end the speculation is that one cat in its fresh entirety is documented by sensible means. No one doubts the existance of all of the rest of UK  pieces because they are pictured in theìr context. Now you might retort that there are so few on the ground that they are almost invisible. But they aren't so thin on the ground that the people who do see/shoot them manage to find them and then become so shy about the fact that they hide away. But then again if they are positively identified by the authorities then your game is up and its no more the cat expert's meetings down the pub preeching about the CATs. the 243 and the 270 are waiting and so is the Nikon.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Meece

[Kerny92 1,246]

I can accept there's been the odd escapee over the years. As for a breeding population of Big Cats, not having it! Something would have been discovered by now.

[mackem 26,261]

For what its worth I checked the police reports for dorset the area big cat expert Jonathan McGowan lives,no mention of a road kill leopard,also he didn't mention his skin or the vehicle that killed it during his interview with the dorset echo saying he had hair samples and footprints as evidence of the big cats,why no mention of the skin?He also told the echo newspaper he would inform them first of any future findings,but they haven't printed any story of the road kill leopard yet?In any story there are doubters,believers,and those parked neutrally on the fence,if we keep asking for a cadaver as evidence it doesn't us haters  that's a kids facebook term or something,haters gotta hate  I think I heard a 12 year old kid say that the other week.