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I will donate this camera to your cat hunting if you would like it  lumix fz72 60x zoom 

Was out for a walk with the dogs this morning, bumped into a fellow I sort of know through a lot of common interests we often stop for a chat,he hunts a bit and likes his old cars I have something for

Just re reading the whole thread and you’ve come under some real stick mate .Apologies for my part .Doesn’t mean I’m a believer just embarrassing some of the comments 

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4 hours ago, Greyman said:

A little update, coincidently I am hearing that in the area the old fella lives there is a savanna cat loose, not a  make believe one that only people with special powers like me can see, but a privately owned licence one, just because a cat is mentioned it's not always a lie, there is sometimes a quite normal explanation and you would be quite surprised how many get brought in legally each year   

Didn't realise Savannah cats were available so much as pets . That poser guy recently that was in the news for having one , I assumed it was a special occurance he had one. 

What has the guy who got cut up had to say greyman 

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1 hour ago, Welsh_red said:

Didn't realise Savannah cats were available so much as pets . That poser guy recently that was in the news for having one , I assumed it was a special occurance he had one. 

What has the guy who got cut up had to say greyman 

 

1 hour ago, Welsh_red said:

Didn't realise Savannah cats were available so much as pets . That poser guy recently that was in the news for having one , I assumed it was a special occurance he had one. 

What has the guy who got cut up had to say greyman 

He,s in his 80s mate and was asleep when it happened it's the authority's saying it was a cat, if you have the money and the inclination any cat is still easily available, like the bloke who lost the clouded leopard recently, there are still lots of them bringing things in it just requires stricter paper work and the accommodation has to be in a inner and outer fenced enclosure and have 24 hour cctv and things like that, the serval is the pet cat at the moment for those after a big cat without so much hassle also think domestic X servals will be flooding onto the market next when the £12000 bulldog fad wears thin 

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5 hours ago, mackem said:

Massive difference between catching perfect footage of a jag eating turtle eggs and a snapshot on trailcam of a big cat,my mate gets bigcat pics monthly,he has one cam out,also the locals told the film team so they must see jags often,we are local in this country,the cats are local.................Just throwing pebbles in the pond

You not really takeing in what's being said mate, could you find one fox in an area of 150 acres, ? Probably not without a lot of leg work and a small miracle, we only need around 200 cats in the whole of the U.K. To maintain a breeding population we are not in America were they are travelling the same trail every few days, if I miss my opportunity this winter it will be a year at  least before I get the chance to get it again as that seems to be a normal cycle, I have one spot I,ve found two kills in two years on the same track, so next year a month before the last two kills I will put up a camera, if I,m really lucky it will come back through but that's three years of searching, working out routes and roughly one week at the start of December it seems to pass by that I have to get my picture and that's if my camera does,nt get found and stolen, run out of batteries or malfunction, this is,nt India or America and despite what others may say the odds are stacked massively against me I,m searching for a real needle in a haystack, the things I see along the way make the journey worthwhile for me even if I never get to the end, I,m so in tune with my surroundings because of all the days of walking while scouring the ground for pug-marks listening to the jays and magpies to point me to kill sites and scouring trees for scratch,s and other hidden secrets while working my dog pack as well it's brilliant and if I never get it I won't be to gutted because the hunts been so good 

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2 hours ago, Welsh_red said:

Didn't realise Savannah cats were available so much as pets . That poser guy recently that was in the news for having one , I assumed it was a special occurance he had one. 

What has the guy who got cut up had to say greyman 

That was a Serval he had, Savannah cats are a cross between Servals and domestic moggies and you can own them without any of the licensing required to own a Serval.

They come up on the freead sites from time to time and there's breeders popping up all over the place because kittens sell for up to 5 grand :icon_eek:

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7 minutes ago, BGD said:

That was a Serval he had, Savannah cats are a cross between Servals and domestic moggies and you can own them without any of the licensing required to own a Serval.

They come up on the freead sites from time to time and there's breeders popping up all over the place because kittens sell for up to 5 grand :icon_eek:

5k...... Im in the wrong job

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2 hours ago, Greyman said:

You not really takeing in what's being said mate, could you find one fox in an area of 150 acres, ? Probably not without a lot of leg work and a small miracle, we only need around 200 cats in the whole of the U.K. To maintain a breeding population we are not in America were they are travelling the same trail every few days

How do you know the cats here have different territories and patterns to the cats in the states when no one has ever said the cats if they are here are 100% mountain lions?I am taking in whats being said but if we all agreed whats the use of the discussion,there would be no forum,this is for debate,discussion,information exchange,and how do we know 200 cats?Who makes the states,how do they collate them,is it 200 cats of one species 300 of another?

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Your dead right mate except Jaguars, the first three are general hunters and all three thrive in multiple situations usually unnoticed by people, the jag is a specialist hunter and the third biggest cat,it would struggle to survive un noticed for long, I have seen several pictures of cats  that have the size but not the appearance of the three you mention and the only conclusion is they are hybrids 

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3 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Your dead right mate except Jaguars, the first three are general hunters and all three thrive in multiple situations usually unnoticed by people, the jag is a specialist hunter and the third biggest cat,it would struggle to survive un noticed for long, I have seen several pictures of cats  that have the size but not the appearance of the three you mention and the only conclusion is they are hybrids 

Jaguar and mountain lion have interbred,the young are called pumapards,their range actually overlaps,theres been a number of jaguar treed by guys working hounds on what they thought were mountain lion.

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