Huge Fire In London

[lurcherman 887 13,237]

Just spoke to my uncle and his cousins dad lives on the 15th floor and not been heard of since... alot of white people in there too lads

[lurcherman 887 13,237]

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[riohog 5,721]

It will go like this, they will all get given state of the art housing and a cold fortune found to do it all because of the demographic of that area.

Same as when poor little Damilola Taylor was stabbed to death by his own people, they chucked a fortune at the north Peckham estate.......no expense spared.

I can't help but feel, as horrible as a thought it is, that if you were some middle class white bloke with a family out in the burbs and your house burned down nobody would give a shit about you and you certainly wouldn't have the prime minister, the mayor and Uncle Tom cobbly turning up to support you.

Couldn't afford insurance?.......too f***ing bad !

wilf i just dont have any understanding of why ethnics /imigrants have priority over folk whos families and heritage have lived on this fair isle for hundreds of years why is this what is the govnt frightend of?

[lurcherman 887 13,237]

Thanks mate Its not looking good hes nowhere to be found.

[Lenmcharristar 9,841]

 

 

Any man that can't feel some sort of sympathy for innocent kids getting burnt alive because there Muslim is one sick f**k.

was it 95% of british muslims supported isis? so that means that when that sick isis fcuk that blew up kids in the concert and killed and maimed dozens of CHILDREN, then they were at home cheering, then they don't like the thoughts of it happening to them???? p.s I'm not cheering either. but feel no sympathy toward such a cowardly and sick enemy. even the thoughts that theyre targeting british kids, wether molesting, raping and murdering them is wrong on all accounts. hey maybe its karma that caught up with them. were too easy to forget a few weeks back. well I for one don't.

95%? You're quoting bullshit statistics. The fact is, that's not a block of 100% Muslims, there's going to be the charred remains of kids from different colours & creeds, hey maybe even white kids?....those kids are not the enemy.

You want to feel smug about that then that's fine, but facts are more important than bullshit.....

i know it was not 100% Muslim and for those I feel sympathy, but defo not for the child murderers. And I'm not being smug as you put it. Just how I feel.

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Grenfell Tower: Using fire-resistant cladding on Kensington block 'would have cost £5,000 extra'

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-resistant-cladding-kensington-inquiry-latest-reynobond-london-a7792781.html

Installing fire-resistant cladding at Grenfell Tower would have cost just £5,000 extra, it has been claimed, after the spotlight fell on the building's facade as a factor in Wednesday's devastating fire.

 

The Kensington tower block was totally incinerated in the blaze and at least 17 people were killed. It was refurbished in 2016 at a cost of about £8.6m and new aluminium panels were added to the exterior.

 

A salesman for the US company Reynobond, which produces the panels, told The Times the type of material believed to have been used on Grenfell Tower was banned on tall buildings in the US because of the fire and smoke spread.

[mackem 27,000]

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[gnasher16 30,241]

Has anyone considered this could be arson with intent?

Imagine if something like this was true; A 'racist' thug burns down immigrants.... If true, the flare up would be catastrophic. Muslims going out kicking off, British natives finding a backbone and before you know it, boom! the streets are a fecking mess

I had a similar chat this morning with an ex fireman chap i know he,s adamant that a fire of that intensity could not of covered the distance it did in the short time it did with no outside influence he thinks the whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks.....we,ve all seen how manipulative the media reporting has been i dont think its beyond possibility that an organised arson type of scenario would be hushed up by those in power and blame placed elsewhere in order to keep the same " multicultural togetherness " agenda thats being spoon fed us at the moment.

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Even if the original cause of the fire was arson you could literally watch the fire spread up the cladding in the same way as other fires that have happened around the world so I'm not sure how the "whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks"

[lurcherman 887 13,237]

Steves on there floor 15 still missing

[gnasher16 30,241]

Even if the original cause of the fire was arson you could literally watch the fire spread up the cladding in the same way as other fires that have happened around the world so I'm not sure how the "whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks"

Do you have experience as a firefighter or fire risk assessment......i dont.....so i think i'll go on the opinion of somebody who does thanks.

[Mister Gain 1,764]

They had a cladding covered tower block go up in Melbourne back in 2014. Recall that it was started by a cigarette on the balcony of the 8th floor and engulfed 13 floors in 11 minutes. The investigation concluded that the cladding was an accelerant, and I'm pretty sure it was some old sh1t imported from China.

 

I can't understand why, after the partial collapse of Ronan Point that they didn't shy away from high rise buildings and the associated risks of evacuation of such a building, but they continued to build them and they still stand to this day. They have been allowing more and more people to come into the country where throughout most of my adult life there has been housing shortages.

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Even if the original cause of the fire was arson you could literally watch the fire spread up the cladding in the same way as other fires that have happened around the world so I'm not sure how the "whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks"

Do you have experience as a firefighter or fire risk assessment......i dont.....so i think i'll go on the opinion of somebody who does thanks.

I don't really understand what your pal with all his experience is trying to say TBH, I mean we all saw the cladding burn with our own eyes and there's been cases in many other countries of the same type of cladding causing fire to spread in the same way.

 

It's got nothing to do with whether the fire was started by arson or not, no one is saying the cladding was the cause of the fire itself just that it allowed it to spread in the way it did.

[gnasher16 30,241]

 

 

Even if the original cause of the fire was arson you could literally watch the fire spread up the cladding in the same way as other fires that have happened around the world so I'm not sure how the "whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks"

Do you have experience as a firefighter or fire risk assessment......i dont.....so i think i'll go on the opinion of somebody who does thanks.

I don't really understand what your pal with all his experience is trying to say TBH, I mean we all saw the cladding burn with our own eyes and there's been cases in many other countries of the same type of cladding causing fire to spread in the same way.

It's got nothing to do with whether the fire was started by arson or not, no one is saying the cladding was the cause of the fire itself just that it allowed it to spread in the way it did.

I didn't know what he was talking about either....and do you know the reason i didn't know what he was talking about ? ....because I don't have the understanding or expertise he has.....you obviously do......he was coming up with words and materials I've never heard of that don't interest me all that interested me was his basic opinion on the mights and maybes.....but he would probably do better to just ask you !

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Even if the original cause of the fire was arson you could literally watch the fire spread up the cladding in the same way as other fires that have happened around the world so I'm not sure how the "whole cladding thing is a load of bollocks"

Do you have experience as a firefighter or fire risk assessment......i dont.....so i think i'll go on the opinion of somebody who does thanks.

I don't really understand what your pal with all his experience is trying to say TBH, I mean we all saw the cladding burn with our own eyes and there's been cases in many other countries of the same type of cladding causing fire to spread in the same way.

It's got nothing to do with whether the fire was started by arson or not, no one is saying the cladding was the cause of the fire itself just that it allowed it to spread in the way it did.

I didn't know what he was talking about either....and do you know the reason i didn't know what he was talking about ? ....because I don't have the understanding or expertise he has.....you obviously do......he was coming up with words and materials I've never heard of that don't interest me all that interested me was his basic opinion on the mights and maybes.....but he would probably do better to just ask you !

You still haven't even said what his basic premise was, don't tell me you didn't understand that either? Is he saying the cladding wasn't responsible for the way the fire spread? What does he think was responsible then? Was someone spraying accelerant all over the outside of the block?