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[Coursing mad 24 874]

Shud make handy pups bulldozer x Norfolk type in cmw what you think may throw wooly types ??

[Gilbey 1,469]

haven't seen ad but guessing its these

Edited June 16, 2017 by Gilbey

[Gilbey 1,469]

jeffs done the ped...

Edited June 16, 2017 by Gilbey

[Coursing mad 24 874]

Shud make nice types even if ther now a saluki x he'll still call em stealth hounds atb

[bird 9,973]

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[Coursing mad 24 874]

He MIT of cracked it with this mating . Norfolk in type and looks with coursing blood engine and lungs ! ???

[Boristheblade 1,367]

I had a dog same way bred as this, was jeff Burrells steamer dog x merlin eve coursing bitch. Was very solidly built, very thick dense coat that would withstand any weather and one of the most keen dogs Iv owned. I would have another tomorrow if i knew it would throw like the last one.

[Gilbey 1,469]

Shud make nice types even if ther now a saluki x he'll still call em stealth hounds atb

yeah they'll be nice enough, on that same page he says there's alot of Norfolk blood in Barney(Benjis brother)??

[Coursing mad 24 874]

I think he assumes cos barney was rough coated he's a Norfolk lol

[Gilbey 1,469]

 

 

Shud make nice types even if ther now a saluki x he'll still call em stealth hounds atb

yeah they'll be nice enough, on that same page he says there's alot of Norfolk blood in Barney(Benjis brother)??

Was there not beddy in those lines.

whatever it is there's hardly any of it?

[C.green 3,231]

Doesn't the woolly coat come from saluki grey x Beddie grey which is merlin eve and eves sisters breeding ?

 

Either way mr Burrell must be keen as bully is a grand a jump.

[NE_courser 411]

There could be Norfolk blood in Barney but it would be a long way back..

 

'Barney' gets his rough jacket from his sire 'nipper'.

 

'NIPPER'

 

Who in turn got his rough jacket from his mother the 'seagull'

 

'SEAGULL'

 

Nippers sire 'Joe' was a broken coated dog

 

'JOE'

 

Nippers sire 'joe' was bred off 'merlin' x eves sister 'lilly'

Nippers dam 'seagull' was bred off 'fred' x 'eve'

 

'Eve' and 'lilly' were both bred off the pure saluki 'prince' x a lurcher bitch gypsy ('blue' x 'dawn')

who was mainly a mix of saluki grey beddy and collie.

 

 

Back to 'barney' his mother was 'kim' many think she was a pure saluki but this isn't true.

 

She was from a father x daughter mating sired by the pure saluki 'cruise of shildon'.

'Kim's' dam was also sired by 'cruise' x 'Trixy' a 3/4 collie greyhound.

 

So as said above if there was any Norfolk blood it would be well back in the breeding. I know there are some lines that do have a small dose of Norfolk blood but none of them are in 'Barney'.

 

I hope the above gives anyone interested a little incite into the origin of the wooly coat coursing dogs

[Gilbey 1,469]

Think the long/wooly coat is just the rough lurcher coat mixing with saluki coat, some salukis get more feathering/longer coats as they age

 

kc bitch as a youngster and in her dotage

Edited June 16, 2017 by Gilbey

[NE_courser 411]

Agree mate ? Don't really tend to see it in any other saluki x lines other than stuff bred down from Seagull though?

 

Snowey.. Nipper, sam... benji,Barney, Peggy, Ozzie, fettle etc all direct children or grandchildren to seagull

Edited June 14, 2017 by NE_courser

[Gilbey 1,469]

NE your first post, do you know if it was Jade or her sister(don't have name) that was Kim's dam?