Advice Needed

[mackay 3,384]

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

Seriously?.

I would think I'd have a bit more of an attachment and sense of responsibility to a dog than a fecking shovel.

[neems 2,406]

if alot of trouble comes from passing on these sort of dogs dont get one if ya not gonna keep it nither did i say bull x qbgrey did

 

Ideally that's what would happen,but the fact is it doesn't.

 

So the only thing left to do is the responsible thing.

[Qbgrey 4,097]

some dog swappers would be better off with a shovel,cause they dont know how to treat a dog you mean.

[wildman 498]

 

if alot of trouble comes from passing on these sort of dogs dont get one if ya not gonna keep it nither did i say bull x qbgrey did

 

Ideally that's what would happen,but the fact is it doesn't.

 

So the only thing left to do is the responsible thing.

 

yes true but the responsible thing is not to kill the dog for no f****n reason take the time and effort to find it a new home with someone who is capable of giving 100% to the dog and the dog will repay its master

[neems 2,406]

 

 

if alot of trouble comes from passing on these sort of dogs dont get one if ya not gonna keep it nither did i say bull x qbgrey did

 

Ideally that's what would happen,but the fact is it doesn't.

 

So the only thing left to do is the responsible thing.

 

yes true but the responsible thing is not to kill the dog for no f****n reason take the time and effort to find it a new home with someone who is capable of giving 100% to the dog and the dog will repay its master

 

 

We'll have to agree to disagree,if I had to get rid of a potentially dangerous dog and couldn't guarantee I could get it a responsible home for life I'd put it down without a second thought.

[Jonjon79 13,358]

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

I've read a fair few of your posts and, I do respect your opinion but, thats f***ing harsh mate.

 

I understand where you're coming from but, we're still talking about a living thing that has a will to survive.

 

Now, I'm not a dog man but, I do own own dogs. One of which can be a little prick - she seems to hate other dogs, kids, old people, black people - she can be feckin embarrassing on a walk but, she's mine.

She shows me affection but, I have to keep an eye on her. I know what she's about and, I'll be mortified the day that she goes.

 

We've got to a point now where I know her foibles and how to deal with them and, she knows not to displease me.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you pays your money, you takes your chances

.... it may not always be easy but, there can be rewards in sticking with something difficult.

 

And, before it gets said No, I'm not a luvvie - if a dog is a wrong 'un, fine, PTS, but, It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

 

 

 

To the Op - good luck and atb in finding it a new home

[keepdiggin 9,561]

hows the dog bred mate?

[gnasher16 30,217]

 

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

I've read a fair few of your posts and, I do respect your opinion but, thats f***ing harsh mate.

I understand where you're coming from but, we're still talking about a living thing that has a will to survive.

Now, I'm not a dog man but, I do own own dogs. One of which can be a little prick - she seems to hate other dogs, kids, old people, black people - she can be feckin embarrassing on a walk but, she's mine.

She shows me affection but, I have to keep an eye on her. I know what she's about and, I'll be mortified the day that she goes.

We've got to a point now where I know her foibles and how to deal with them and, she knows not to displease me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you pays your money, you takes your chances

.... it may not always be easy but, there can be rewards in sticking with something difficult.

And, before it gets said No, I'm not a luvvie - if a dog is a wrong 'un, fine, PTS, but, It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

To the Op - good luck and atb in finding it a new home

To me its the difference between a serious full on working/sporting dog man and what most people are,which is a normal dog owner who happens to work his dog....if the tool doesnt fit the job then a person serious about the work they do with a dog has to change it for a tool that does fit.....paying your money and taking your pick is what the fluffy people who treat dogs like people do because they feel they owe the dog their eternal love with a " he,s one of the family now ive handed my money over " attitude....well why do they,they didnt breed it they just bought it dogs are property why do some folk feel this pressure to keep a dog thats no good for the purpose they want a dog for take it back to basics if i buy a dog to catch rabbits and the dog refuses to catch rabbits am i obligated to keep this dog until its last breath and never go rabbiting again.....see how silly it sounds ?....i know we are supposed to be a nation of dog lovers but it's a totally different ball game when its a working/sporting dog you might be relying on to put grub on the table......only my opinion like im not saying I'm right.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

 

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

I've read a fair few of your posts and, I do respect your opinion but, thats f***ing harsh mate.

I understand where you're coming from but, we're still talking about a living thing that has a will to survive.

Now, I'm not a dog man but, I do own own dogs. One of which can be a little prick - she seems to hate other dogs, kids, old people, black people - she can be feckin embarrassing on a walk but, she's mine.

She shows me affection but, I have to keep an eye on her. I know what she's about and, I'll be mortified the day that she goes.

We've got to a point now where I know her foibles and how to deal with them and, she knows not to displease me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you pays your money, you takes your chances

.... it may not always be easy but, there can be rewards in sticking with something difficult.

And, before it gets said No, I'm not a luvvie - if a dog is a wrong 'un, fine, PTS, but, It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

To the Op - good luck and atb in finding it a new home

I don't mean to sound offensive but its seems like you can't trust it with anything kids included and you say if its a wrongun pts is that what that needs culling because how can you rest easy with that about and I qet were Nash is coming from some dogs are seen as tools if they work to your standard or do as you require you don't change it but you can feed shite for the same price as something decent a lot boils down to the owner and there expectations

[Jonjon79 13,358]

 

 

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

I've read a fair few of your posts and, I do respect your opinion but, thats f***ing harsh mate.

I understand where you're coming from but, we're still talking about a living thing that has a will to survive.

Now, I'm not a dog man but, I do own own dogs. One of which can be a little prick - she seems to hate other dogs, kids, old people, black people - she can be feckin embarrassing on a walk but, she's mine.

She shows me affection but, I have to keep an eye on her. I know what she's about and, I'll be mortified the day that she goes.

We've got to a point now where I know her foibles and how to deal with them and, she knows not to displease me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you pays your money, you takes your chances

.... it may not always be easy but, there can be rewards in sticking with something difficult.

And, before it gets said No, I'm not a luvvie - if a dog is a wrong 'un, fine, PTS, but, It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

To the Op - good luck and atb in finding it a new home

To me its the difference between a serious full on working/sporting dog man and what most people are,which is a normal dog owner who happens to work his dog....if the tool doesnt fit the job then a person serious about the work they do with a dog has to change it for a tool that does fit.....paying your money and taking your pick is what the fluffy people who treat dogs like people do because they feel they owe the dog their eternal love with a " he,s one of the family now ive handed my money over " attitude....well why do they,they didnt breed it they just bought it dogs are property why do some folk feel this pressure to keep a dog thats no good for the purpose they want a dog for take it back to basics if i buy a dog to catch rabbits and the dog refuses to catch rabbits am i obligated to keep this dog until its last breath and never go rabbiting again.....see how silly it sounds ?....i know we are supposed to be a nation of dog lovers but it's a totally different ball game when its a working/sporting dog you might be relying on to put grub on the table......only my opinion like im not saying I'm right.

Fair comment mate

 

Believe me, I can see where you're coming from. All I meant was that if a dog isn't right for you, maybe rehoming it is better than taking it for a one way trip round the back of the barn.

 

I'm not fluffy in any sense of the word - I do own little dogs but, they're treated like the animals that they are and, a shitter is still a shitter but, it can depend on the individual dealing with them

 

If you're ever down this way, you're welcome to pop in to meet the little shit and have a cuppa

[Jonjon79 13,358]

 

 

If as a working dog man you wasnt happy with a new shovel or a ferret would you feel obliged to keep it anyway....of course you wouldnt,i dont know why we obssess over the whole " a dogs for life not just for xmas " mentality in this country.....a dog is property,its yours to do as you please with as long as nothing cruel takes place then get a new one every week till you find the one your happy with if thats what you want to do.

I've read a fair few of your posts and, I do respect your opinion but, thats f***ing harsh mate.

I understand where you're coming from but, we're still talking about a living thing that has a will to survive.

Now, I'm not a dog man but, I do own own dogs. One of which can be a little prick - she seems to hate other dogs, kids, old people, black people - she can be feckin embarrassing on a walk but, she's mine.

She shows me affection but, I have to keep an eye on her. I know what she's about and, I'll be mortified the day that she goes.

We've got to a point now where I know her foibles and how to deal with them and, she knows not to displease me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you pays your money, you takes your chances

.... it may not always be easy but, there can be rewards in sticking with something difficult.

And, before it gets said No, I'm not a luvvie - if a dog is a wrong 'un, fine, PTS, but, It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.

To the Op - good luck and atb in finding it a new home

I don't mean to sound offensive but its seems like you can't trust it with anything kids included and you say if its a wrongun pts is that what that needs culling because how can you rest easy with that about and I qet were Nash is coming from some dogs are seen as tools if they work to your standard or do as you require you don't change it but you can feed shite for the same price as something decent a lot boils down to the owner and there expectations

No offense taken mate

 

The dog is a grumpy twat and, we know she can be an arsehole but, she responds well to commands from me, the missus and little 'un.

 

We know her personality and we can read her well - she's improving very slowly so, we keep her on her on a short leash as required.

 

At home and, around those that she knows, she's good as gold.

[gamerooster 1,179]

Cheers for the replies fellas, as for the dog being a wrongun, hes good as good around people, as for dogs, well i dont see that as a issue because of what he is, i knew from day one what hed be like, the issue is other dog owners, ill be out walking him and theyll have there dogs off the lead, they see him pulling and think he wants to play as they say all to often then look at me like a muppet when i pick him up like im scared of him getting hurt, what they dont realise is im saving there dog! Hes a dog for a job and im not gonna punish him for that, but the issues began when i moved, unfortunately i had no choice on the matter as i needed the job and the money, and got the only house i could get..... its not a decision ill make lightly, and whatever i choose itll be whats best for the dog, thats all that matters to me

[shovel leaner 7,650]

If it was me and you find the dog doesn't gel , try to re-home , there is no shame in it . You don't seem like a serial dog changer and keeping the dog isn't good for either of you . If a dog is a liability, i.e. Bad around stock , kids, people . Then it should be culled . Bull crosses can be tricky around other dogs and if you want to run them in company then it's a problem, nice sociable crosses are what you want . I had a dog that drove me nuts , didn't want to get in a vehicle, then wouldn't get out . Started being aggressive with other dogs , and then started looking at horses and other livestock. There was no way I was going to give this dog to anyone else . Broke my heart when I put it to sleep , it was a superb looking animal , but a liability and an incident waiting to happen .

[gnasher16 30,217]

Fair comment mate

Believe me, I can see where you're coming from. All I meant was that if a dog isn't right for you, maybe rehoming it is better than taking it for a one way trip round the back of the barn.

I'm not fluffy in any sense of the word - I do own little dogs but, they're treated like the animals that they are and, a shitter is still a shitter but, it can depend on the individual dealing with them

If you're ever down this way, you're welcome to pop in to meet the little shit and have a cuppa

Good man,always nice to meet dogs that dont want to tear your limbs off !

Look im not saying theres anything wrong with people who are all " fluffy " about dogs,to me a dog should be a help and a companion all im saying is the right tool for the job and if the dog doesnt meet your expectations you shouldnt be put on a guilt trip about getting shot.....they are dogs not children,all the best.

[socks 32,253]

 

Fair comment mate

Believe me, I can see where you're coming from. All I meant was that if a dog isn't right for you, maybe rehoming it is better than taking it for a one way trip round the back of the barn.

I'm not fluffy in any sense of the word - I do own little dogs but, they're treated like the animals that they are and, a shitter is still a shitter but, it can depend on the individual dealing with them

If you're ever down this way, you're welcome to pop in to meet the little shit and have a cuppa

Good man,always nice to meet dogs that dont want to tear your limbs off !

Look im not saying theres anything wrong with people who are all " fluffy " about dogs,to me a dog should be a help and a companion all im saying is the right tool for the job and if the dog doesnt meet your expectations you shouldnt be put on a guilt trip about getting shot.....they are dogs not children,all the best.

Fair play gnash you've said a few times that you have got nothing against people who are all fluffy with their dogs but there's no need to keep sending pictures of you in your youth with little FI FI I know you miss your bestest friend ..........