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[dodger 2,754]

4 minutes ago, gnipper said:

I like him dont get me wrong its just his adhd that's annoying  

 Sometimes I forget he's not 7 month yet but he's bloody annoying, can't even sit still to be stroked. I'm hoping he steadies down a bit with age. He developed a fear of strangers and other dogs too for no reason so can be unpredictable and flighty but he might grow out of that too.

Yes plenty of time for him to turn the corner but for now just let him be a pup but at the same time go back to basics and try to not let him get away from you to much keeo him in and focused on you create a balance.

Also after initial socialisation I don't really encourage mine to interact with other dogs I want there attention on and around me to be interesting and fun n you'll find there not bothered about other people n dogs anyway then so aslong as they get on with n not aggressive etc that's the main thing..

He's a crackin stamp isn't he..

[gnipper 6,461]

I'm the same mate I don't want any if my dogs arsing around playing with other dogs but he just started being scared of them, even to the point of running in his bed screaming when my mate brought his dog round. Even screaming trying to get away from old dears trying to fuss him on his walk the kind that all dogs love a fuss off. I darent risk him off the lead where we could bump into other dogs as I think he would bolt and not come back, luckily I have a big private site at work to let him run free on.

 In general he's not too bad he will sit and wait to be sent for a retrieve and walks to heel on lead (not a chance off it) it's just the scattyness that's the problem. 

[dodger 2,754]

8 minutes ago, gnipper said:

I'm the same mate I don't want any if my dogs arsing around playing with other dogs but he just started being scared of them, even to the point of running in his bed screaming when my mate brought his dog round. Even screaming trying to get away from old dears trying to fuss him on his walk the kind that all dogs love a fuss off. I darent risk him off the lead where we could bump into other dogs as I think he would bolt and not come back, luckily I have a big private site at work to let him run free on.

 In general he's not too bad he will sit and wait to be sent for a retrieve and walks to heel on lead (not a chance off it) it's just the scattyness that's the problem. 

Hope you done mind me saying mate but to pick up on the part we're you have quoted you have a big private site at work that you let him run free on, you may want to reevaluate that depending on what you want to do with him as that is just allowing him to do his own thing unless you mean you let him out on there with you little n often not running about by himself..

As for the behaviour towards other dogs and people that is strange do you think something could have happened like a nip from another dog or something..

[gnipper 6,461]

8 minutes ago, dodger said:

Hope you done mind me saying mate but to pick up on the part we're you have quoted you have a big private site at work that you let him run free on, you may want to reevaluate that depending on what you want to do with him as that is just allowing him to do his own thing unless you mean you let him out on there with you little n often not running about by himself..

As for the behaviour towards other dogs and people that is strange do you think something could have happened like a nip from another dog or something..

No he's had no negative interactions with other dogs or people. From googling it came up with fear phases or something. 

 By run free I mean off lead walking he doesn't just run off he always stays in close proximity just bombing around in every direction in a 20m radius unless I am doing retrieves with him. 

I've kept him away from game etc as I'm not rushing him in any way.

[dodger 2,754]

11 minutes ago, gnipper said:

No he's had no negative interactions with other dogs or people. From googling it came up with fear phases or something. 

 By run free I mean off lead walking he doesn't just run off he always stays in close proximity just bombing around in every direction in a 20m radius unless I am doing retrieves with him. 

I've kept him away from game etc as I'm not rushing him in any way.

Sounds like he is coming on grand then especially for his age 

Sorry I can't be any help with the other concerns ie the fear thing as I haven't come across that before..

Edited January 14 by dodger

[gnipper 6,461]

4 minutes ago, dodger said:

Sounds like he is coming on grand then especially for his age 

Sorry I can't be any help with the other concerns as I haven't come across them before..

It's bloody weird and not something I've encountered before in any of my other dogs, if it was aggressive behaviour I could understand and fix it but fear I'm just letting him see things from afar and ignoring the behaviour. He's not scared of fireworks or gun shot but lovely old women have him cartwheeling on the lead

 For 6 month though he's a very switched on pup and has been for a while. Hunting bugs and figuring out door handles etc and he can catch food and toys etc like a pro which neither of my old borders could get their heads round.

[gnipper 6,461]

Tried him with a frozen one in the week and then he had a go on the real thing. Still mental but getting better and starting to work the cover too. 

[gnipper 6,461]

Quick half hour out with the air arms

[lampingboy 223]

My wirehaired vizsla, just about 7 months old now and starting to fill out. Was hoping for a shorter tighter coat when I picked her but wouldn't change her character. Very biddable soft pup. 

[gnipper 6,461]

1 hour ago, lampingboy said:

My wirehaired vizsla, just about 7 months old now and starting to fill out. Was hoping for a shorter tighter coat when I picked her but wouldn't change her character. Very biddable soft pup. 

Do they strip the coat on these like a wire haired terrier?  It could change with age?

[lampingboy 223]

Yes that's right. I partially stripped her before Christmas, her most dense areas anyway. She's probably due another tidy up soon. I agree, I'm sure her coat will change with age the big ginger fecker

Edited March 4 by lampingboy

[Neal 1,866]

10 hours ago, lampingboy said:

Yes that's right. I partially stripped her before Christmas, her most dense areas anyway. She's probably due another tidy up soon. I agree, I'm sure her coat will change with age the big ginger fecker

I very nearly bought one of these when I got my last dog. However, although I'd heard they were  calmer than the smooths, all the ones I'd met were still far more excitable than I'd like...so I chickened out and got another kelpie. Better the devil you know and all that jazz.

[lampingboy 223]

9 minutes ago, Neal said:

I very nearly bought one of these when I got my last dog. However, although I'd heard they were  calmer than the smooths, all the ones I'd met were still far more excitable than I'd like...so I chickened out and got another kelpie. Better the devil you know and all that jazz.

That's understandable. I'll be honest, in the first few months of owning her there were a few times I thought what on earth have I done. Not so much because of her energy levels but more the fact she was 100x more clingy, needy and vocal than any ex misses I've ever had! And that's saying something.

I used to take her to work with me a few days a week in the early days but soon stopped that because of how needy she became. Some more crate/kennel time seemed to fix that over a few week period. Don't get me wrong, she adores being with you and I like that but I couldn't stick her the way she was.  

Around 6 months old I started seeing a change in her, she's calmed down a lot and started maturing. Still very much a pup but it's nice to see her developing.

On a training note, one thing I struggled with a few months ago was the drive to retrieve. Likely down to my inadequate handling skills and over doing things. We took some time off, slowed things down and have been building back up slowly. She will now retrieve a mixture of dummies to hand, both seens and blinds. We're building on this every week with different environments and distractions whilst being ever mindful of not over doing it. Little and sometimes not so often seems to be the trick with this one. I'm looking forward to bringing her on and getting her out for a few days possibly next season if I think she's near ready.

[tatsblisters 9,591]

I watched a smooth haired Vizla bitch work with a goshawk some years ago and it was a sight to behold how tuned in with the gos it was. I see a few just kept as pets and walked around the local park and i think what a bloody shame a dog like that is not allowed to use its natural ability for what it was bred for.

[Neal 1,866]

23 hours ago, lampingboy said:

That's understandable. I'll be honest, in the first few months of owning her there were a few times I thought what on earth have I done. Not so much because of her energy levels but more the fact she was 100x more clingy, needy and vocal than any ex misses I've ever had! And that's saying something.

I used to take her to work with me a few days a week in the early days but soon stopped that because of how needy she became. Some more crate/kennel time seemed to fix that over a few week period. Don't get me wrong, she adores being with you and I like that but I couldn't stick her the way she was.  

Around 6 months old I started seeing a change in her, she's calmed down a lot and started maturing. Still very much a pup but it's nice to see her developing.

On a training note, one thing I struggled with a few months ago was the drive to retrieve. Likely down to my inadequate handling skills and over doing things. We took some time off, slowed things down and have been building back up slowly. She will now retrieve a mixture of dummies to hand, both seens and blinds. We're building on this every week with different environments and distractions whilst being ever mindful of not over doing it. Little and sometimes not so often seems to be the trick with this one. I'm looking forward to bringing her on and getting her out for a few days possibly next season if I think she's near ready.

Re the retrieving, are vizslas maybe more like curly-coated retrievers than labs i.e. they can't see the point in simply retrieving for the fun of it even though they'll do it rigorously when needed? My first lurcher was the same (beardie x greyhound) I couldn't get her to retrieve at all in her puppy training so I gave up. Then, when she started working she brought it back naturally.