Who You Voting

[Torquemada 288]

Tory, I am old enough to remember nationalised industry and how bad that is. And Corbyn/McDonald/Abbot aren't fit to shovel shit.

[Bosun11 537]

The hardest general election in my lifetime...

 

Under a Tory government I believe we will see the end of the NHS.

Under a Tory government I believe schools will be worse off and further Police cuts.

Under a Tory government, or any other, I dont believe we will see the hunting bill overturned.

But under a Labour government i see mass immigration, a soft line on terrorism, a soft line on brexit and a country fecked forever... So this aint about me, this ones for my daughters future...

[Deadeye18 164]

 

Conservative.But if there was the dream team of a farage/tommy Robinson pro uk party then that would get my vote.

And Katie Hopkins ......

Very good!!The 3 amigos would destroy everything in their path!

[nothernlite 18,137]

Green party

[Born Hunter 17,841]

This election to me has really influenced and strengthened my belief that we absolutely need democratic reform. Like any project, as the world evolves it is amended to suit, fix upon fix until you get to a point where the entire job is one massive system of 'fixes', fundamentally outdated and unjustifiable. There comes a point when you have to be brave enough to knock it down and rebuild with a more appropriately modern design. We need a full separation of powers, we need a more representative system and we need a Bill of Rights that states our values in stone. We need reform that motivates the electorate to be political engaged and challenged daily and not just at election time. We should never fear "instability" because it is merely a negative byword for democratic change used by politicians to restrict your freedoms and enhance their control.

 

In this election, pragmatically I honestly want a Tory government but I do not want my Tory MP part of it. He's almost certainly the safest seat in the House so supporting him with my vote is neither here nor there really and since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either. This is Brexit referendum 2.0 and they are the only two parties of significance that represent anything close to what I want on that issue. Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, Greens etc are all rabidly opposed to independence. No matter whether I can find common ground on a selection of their other policies.

 

Still not really sure....

Edited June 7, 2017 by Born Hunter

[tatsblisters 10,666]

Just as an ordinary working class bloke in a working class area along with my wife who has and works in the care sector for the last 30 odd years both of us in our mid 50s have seen some momentus changes to the town we live and not for the better I can asure anybody as night follows day we will NOT be voting LABOUR.

[riohog 5,823]

the whole job is a mess . the political circus !!,

[neems 2,406]

since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either.

 

What direction do you think the party should have gone?

 

They,like all other parties need mass appeal,and with us having won the EU vote what other option was there?

[Born Hunter 17,841]

 

since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either.

 

What direction do you think the party should have gone?

 

They,like all other parties need mass appeal,and with us having won the EU vote what other option was there?

 

 

UKIP, like any party can do what they like. I'd respond to your point with, why should I feel represented by a party that is moving away from my political position? As a party strategist, you can't change your voter base and expect to retain your old base.

 

They made their decision and I'm not telling anyone how to run their party.

[The one 8,535]

If it weren't so serious it would be funny they two should be on the telly , but up here we have the snp wee jimmy krankie doesn't have a day job she only campaigns about independence with her rent a mob who are anti english ? . Or dole birds being paid cash for a shift on the placards ?. With her second once in a lifetime vote and then even a third if she doesn't get her way at 15 million pounds a time that money would would go some way to plugging a falling scottish economy. the rate of Scottish education once one of the highest in the world has dropped to average in the ten years shes been in power she should of had the balls to step down with Salomand as in my eyes they where a pair like the kray twins

[neems 2,406]

 

 

since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either.

 

What direction do you think the party should have gone?

 

They,like all other parties need mass appeal,and with us having won the EU vote what other option was there?

 

 

UKIP, like any party can do what they like. I'd respond to your point with, why should I feel represented by a party that is moving away from my political position? As a party strategist, you can't change your voter base and expect to retain your old base.

 

They made their decision and I'm not telling anyone how to run their party.

 

 

There's no point in being/feeling represented by a party that will never have any power,in this case compromises had to be made to the mission statement of the party (I don't want to call it ideology) in order to realistically pursue any tangible results.

 

I still think they'll fail,but they're going about things the right way imo.

 

My question was what choice do you think they had?

[Born Hunter 17,841]

 

 

 

since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either.

 

What direction do you think the party should have gone?

 

They,like all other parties need mass appeal,and with us having won the EU vote what other option was there?

 

 

UKIP, like any party can do what they like. I'd respond to your point with, why should I feel represented by a party that is moving away from my political position? As a party strategist, you can't change your voter base and expect to retain your old base.

 

They made their decision and I'm not telling anyone how to run their party.

 

 

There's no point in being/feeling represented by a party that will never have any power,in this case compromises had to be made to the mission statement of the party (I don't want to call it ideology) in order to realistically pursue any tangible results.

 

I still think they'll fail,but they're going about things the right way imo.

 

My question was what choice do you think they had?

 

 

To achieve what? Power and influence? Then you do the same as every other party and say whatever you have to to get the most woops and cheers from the electorate. I don't really care why they moved, it's obvious, I'm just judging candidates based on how closely I feel they represent me. They need to be about more than Brexit and the 'more' part ain't particularly appetising anymore.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Born Hunter

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

 

since UKIP started chasing the working class centre right I don't feel much in kin with them either.

 

What direction do you think the party should have gone?

 

They,like all other parties need mass appeal,and with us having won the EU vote what other option was there?

 

 

UKIP, like any party can do what they like. I'd respond to your point with, why should I feel represented by a party that is moving away from my political position? As a party strategist, you can't change your voter base and expect to retain your old base.

 

They made their decision and I'm not telling anyone how to run their party.

 

 

There's no point in being/feeling represented by a party that will never have any power,in this case compromises had to be made to the mission statement of the party (I don't want to call it ideology) in order to realistically pursue any tangible results.

 

I still think they'll fail,but they're going about things the right way imo.

 

My question was what choice do you think they had?

 

 

To achieve what? Power and influence? Then you do the same as every other party and say whatever you have to to get the most woops and cheers from the electorate. I don't really care why they moved, it's obvious, I'm just judging candidates based on how closely I feel they represent me. They need to be about more than Brexit and the 'more' part ain't particularly appetising anymore.

 

 

Of course they should aim to gain power and influence,what's the point otherwise?

That's why compromise is necessary at times,the only other option as far as I can see was to fade into obscurity.

 

I was just curious to hear what other options there were in your opinion.

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

Abbots been asked to stand aside lol, can't be good for labour

[Born Hunter 17,841]

 

 

 

 

Of course they should aim to gain power and influence,what's the point otherwise?

That's why compromise is necessary at times,the only other option as far as I can see was to fade into obscurity.

 

I was just curious to hear what other options there were in your opinion.

 

 

I don't really understand why we're discussing party strategy when I made a comment on personal politics? UKIP have moved away from me, so they have less appeal to me, much like all the other parties. I'm not saying they shouldn't have done! LOL.

 

I'm not moving to the centre ground just so I can have a jolly with everyone else. Therefore they have less in common with me. That isn't a comment on their strategy or even my strategy.

 

Just to be clear, I'll vote for whoever I think I need to. But UKIP certainly have less appeal today than they did before. Based on policy but perhaps not tactically.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Born Hunter