Whats Going On In London?

[tandors 888]

Bgd I've probably confused you with someone else but haven't you described yourself as an anarchist in the past? Maybe I am wrong and you said communist apologies if I'm wrong. And been to the jungle in Calais trying to undermine security checks and services by helping people of unknown origins into this country? I understand it's impossible not to be objective and non party political when this happens and a few days before an election but my opinion on it is both main parties have to carry the blame and neither of them will do what's necessary to sort the problem, only point and jeer at the other.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Has the need for intelligence gathering gone so far its now having a negative effect is and now putting public in danger? ...I think its obvious they don't mind some of these people being here so they can gather info but is it working? wouldnt it be better just to not have them here period!

 

That's the problem they are trying to keep tabs on an ever increasing problem, why bother keeping tabs when you can simply intern and remove. This is hardly extreme thinking, it was done during WW2 and most of the people interned weren't any threat at all where the 27000 are definitely a threat if not violent they help radicalize people.

 

Unfortunately the Human rights act that was enshrined in Law by Tony Bliar prevents us returning people to countries if there is any doubt they will get a 'fair trial' which is virtually all of them, you saw how hard it was to get rid of that hook hand freak and he was only being sent to Jordan which is hardly barbaric and is an ally of the west.

 

When I was in Algeria a common complaint was than the terrorists who had caused so much carnage had escaped to France and the UK and were then protected from extradition, that is a lot of families who would never get justice yet we would expect them to extradite people to here if they were involved in some crime.

[riohog 5,816]

 

Has the need for intelligence gathering gone so far its now having a negative effect is and now putting public in danger? ...I think its obvious they don't mind some of these people being here so they can gather info but is it working? wouldnt it be better just to not have them here period!

 

That's the problem they are trying to keep tabs on an ever increasing problem, why bother keeping tabs when you can simply intern and remove. This is hardly extreme thinking, it was done during WW2 and most of the people interned weren't any threat at all where the 27000 are definitely a threat if not violent they help radicalize people.

 

Unfortunately the Human rights act that was enshrined in Law by Tony Bliar prevents us returning people to countries if there is any doubt they will get a 'fair trial' which is virtually all of them, you saw how hard it was to get rid of that hook hand freak and he was only being sent to Jordan which is hardly barbaric and is an ally of the west.

 

When I was in Algeria a common complaint was than the terrorists who had caused so much carnage had escaped to France and the UK and were then protected from extradition, that is a lot of families who would never get justice yet we would expect them to extradite people to here if they were involved in some crime.

 

f.ck the human rights act thats forfeited when they are a threat to national security

[Nik_B 3,790]

I agree mate but it is enshrined in Law now, even the French weren't stupid enough to have done that, this is the problem with Law....it's easy to implement and takes decades to undo which is why everyone should be very cautious about supporting more laws that May and her ilk are going to push for now.

 

It is quite disgusting how they are using a tragedy to push for more censorship, it won't keep us safer but it will take away more freedoms. Anti Terror law already gets abused by Councils, HMRC will soon be able to tap in to your internet records using similar legislation...how is that terrorist related??

[riohog 5,816]

I agree mate but it is enshrined in Law now, even the French weren't stupid enough to have done that, this is the problem with Law....it's easy to implement and takes decades to undo which is why everyone should be very cautious about supporting more laws that May and her ilk are going to push for now.

 

It is quite disgusting how they are using a tragedy to push for more censorship, it won't keep us safer but it will take away more freedoms. Anti Terror law already gets abused by Councils, HMRC will soon be able to tap in to your internet records using similar legislation...how is that terrorist related??

lol the common man knows how to deal with the issue it doesnt need a rich public school boy to tell us how it works ,but they all drink from the same trough so .i suppose thats how it works..

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

I agree mate but it is enshrined in Law now, even the French weren't stupid enough to have done that, this is the problem with Law....it's easy to implement and takes decades to undo which is why everyone should be very cautious about supporting more laws that May and her ilk are going to push for now.

 

It is quite disgusting how they are using a tragedy to push for more censorship, it won't keep us safer but it will take away more freedoms. Anti Terror law already gets abused by Councils, HMRC will soon be able to tap in to your internet records using similar legislation...how is that terrorist related??

lol the common man knows how to deal with the issue it doesnt need a rich public school boy to tell us how it works ,but they all drink from the same trough so .i suppose thats how it works..

 

 

Yep and don't think for a minute that a few terror attacks keeps them up at night, they will love this because the public will be clamoring for more laws, "something must be done!" they might even get the go ahead to invade somewhere.

 

On that note I would not be at all surprised if the French or NATO don't eventually go in to Libya in the guise of stopping the 'migrant crisis'

 

Crafty b*****ds the lot of them

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

See Tommy bang on the money again .

[riohog 5,816]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sas-special-forces-hit-list-iraq-syria-isis-terrorist-attacks-drones-a7400756.html bout time !!

[riohog 5,816]

November 2016...

maybe a repeat performance wouldnt go a miss

[kanny 21,067]

 

 

November 2016...

 

maybe a repeat performance wouldnt go a miss

But here not Iraq there all back now... I certainly wouldn't have a problem with it.

[scothunter 12,609]

Corbin has some neck on him calling for may to resign for her time being home secretary while having that c**t abbott as shadow secretary! Labour have lost the f***ing plot!

[riohog 5,816]

Corbin has some neck on him calling for may to resign for her time being home secretary while having that c**t abbott as shadow secretary! Labour have lost the f***ing plot!

just a pissing contest there both c,ts so it should be equal!!

[BGD 6,437]

Bgd I've probably confused you with someone else but haven't you described yourself as an anarchist in the past? Maybe I am wrong and you said communist apologies if I'm wrong. And been to the jungle in Calais trying to undermine security checks and services by helping people of unknown origins into this country? I understand it's impossible not to be objective and non party political when this happens and a few days before an election but my opinion on it is both main parties have to carry the blame and neither of them will do what's necessary to sort the problem, only point and jeer at the other.

Nope never described myself as an anarchist, I've mentioned anarchist pals though maybe that's where the confusion came from. Never been to Calais to help refugees into the country either, not sure where you got that from.

 

Apology accepted

[tandors 888]

No problem old bean.

[Francie 6,368]

 

Bgd I've probably confused you with someone else but haven't you described yourself as an anarchist in the past? Maybe I am wrong and you said communist apologies if I'm wrong. And been to the jungle in Calais trying to undermine security checks and services by helping people of unknown origins into this country? I understand it's impossible not to be objective and non party political when this happens and a few days before an election but my opinion on it is both main parties have to carry the blame and neither of them will do what's necessary to sort the problem, only point and jeer at the other.

Nope never described myself as an anarchist, I've mentioned anarchist pals though maybe that's where the confusion came from. Never been to Calais to help refugees into the country either, not sure where you got that from.

 

Apology accepted

No, but your a self confessed globalist?