World Strongest Man 2017(Don`t Read If You Want To Watch It On Tv At Christmas)

[socks 32,253]

 

Which countries military are you talking about Chris ??? .....

 

The military and amphetamines have a long history. The Yanks have been using them for years. Fighter pilots using amphetamines is the most common but a recent study by the Mountain Tactical Institute reported that half of respondents admitted to using them. A recent freedom of information request, regarding the British military suggests that there has been a five fold increase in the number of failed tests for PED's, specifically steroids. A certain officer seems to condone it. I'm sure there is plenty of anecdotal stuff too. I know quite a few. personally!

Then your obviously aware of CDT ... (compulsory drug testing) in the British army that's been active for over twenty years ... if your using any drug that's not prescribed to you it's an instant dismissal ... there are obviously plenty of guys that will take the risk but if they are caught they will be kicked out ......

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Then your obviously aware of CDT ... (compulsory drug testing) in the British army that's been active for over twenty years ... if your using any drug that's not prescribed to you it's an instant dismissal ... there are obviously plenty of guys that will take the risk but if they are caught they will be kicked out ......

Absolutely, mate. I'm not suggesting that everyone picking up a rifle in the service of her majesty is juicing but I'm sure you can accept that anyone who takes PED's seriously has a system of avoidance, in place, when it comes to CDT. You'll also be aware that most substances have a legitimate medical use, and the PED effect is often a side-effect as opposed to a primary usage. There are professional athletes that have legitimate medical prescriptions for alleged ailments that are completely exempt when it comes to medical testing. I mentioned the Williams sisters earlier on. They have a doctors note... However it doesn't change the fact that they're incredible athletes either way and so are the elite soldiers of the armed forces.

 

From what I've seen from various forms of CDT, and this is purely anecdotal, is that failing the test is more down to poor cycling than it is to taking the substances in the first place. Mainly arrogance combined with a highly tuned sense of invincibility. Lance was one of those. If you've spent longer in a gym than 12 months, and I'm sure you're probably into the decades, as opposed to the years, you'll know who does what and how often. I'm not suggesting any impropriety at all but it goes with the territory. You know as does anyone that's shifted a barbell enough times to keep a journal.

 

I'm sure there are many guys that will take the risk. You're in the business of being the best of the best, supreme examples of soldiering, but when it comes to professional anything some of them need a little assistance then I'm certainly not going point the finger and talk about ethics and morality. When your day to day business could be your last who am I to call anyone out for doing whatever they need to do to get the job done? I say crack on. I'm not going to judge but I'm going to call it as I see it. I'm not suggesting everyone should suddenly confess but when I see a guy post a result that is above and beyond the contents of his diary I'm not going to have my intelligence insulted either!

[socks 32,253]

when you get tested in the military you have to fill in a form declaring what meds your on which can be checked with your medical centre so any positive result that's contributed to by legitimate meds is ignored ... if your on any drugs in the military it's a role of the dice before your caught ........

[gnasher16 30,591]

The long and the short of it in sport is at this moment the labs are well out in front of the testers the crime is no longer the taking of peds the crime is getting caught taking peds which usually happens through arrogance or over confidence but you are never going to stop people seeking to gain that extra little percentage in performance at the highest level of sport.

Edited May 31, 2017 by gnasher16

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

Dont know much about peds myself, but i agree with ginger, theres no excuses for it, its cheating at the end of the day, even tho as some say most are at it, in the end when you look in the mirror, your only kidding yourself.

 

Young kids should be encouraged to stay away from peds, but if an adult wants to take them then thats up to them.

How is it cheating if your governing body doesn't class them as banned substances? WSM doesn't have the same testing policy as the IOC.

 

I also noticed that no one commented on PED's in the military. They're cheating. They're using banned substances. Why the double standard?

 

Young kids should be encouraged to stay away but if there is money on the table it's the difference between a payday and a wannabe. That's where professional sports are in 2017. Like it or not it's never going away and no crack down or wagging of the finger is going to change that.

Read my post again chris, at the end of the day when you look in the mirror your only cheating yourself, no matter what governing body says.

 

Plus imo money aint that important for me just to take pedds to be a sucess mate.

 

Plus the military is not a f***ing game mate, its life or death.

 

Im no angel so im not looking down on anyone i just think it shouldnt be encouraged, cause children will fall foul of this.

[gnasher16 30,591]

Francie is it just the word " drug " that you are not comfortable with....or the unfair advantage that they give.....because believe me there are far bigger unfair advantages than drugs within sport.....as an example there is absolutely no difference between elevating your blood count through altitude training using hypoxic air machines or masks than by taking Epo....the only difference is Epo being a drug is illegal.

 

So it could be said that finances give a much more unfair advantage than drugs do,after all not every athlete can afford a hypoxic air machine !

 

A simple golf ball can give much more of an unfair advantage if one player is using a higher technology ball than the other.

 

It could even be said that using performance enhancing drugs actually levels out the playing field and removes the effects of genetic inequality......the swimmer Ian Thorpe had size 18 feet giving him an obvious advantage.

 

Genetics,equipment,finances,training facilities,diet,coaching will all effect an athletes performance but none of those advantages we class as unfair.....whether using peds or not very few athletes are competing on a level playing field and that itself is unfair.....but who ever claimed sport had to be fair.

Edited May 31, 2017 by gnasher16

[neems 2,406]

The point of sport is to test for the most gifted and dedicated athlete,so the more level the playing field the better.

So the fairer the better,if they're all untested then it's fair.

 

But it's also about health,especially at the lower levels.

 

I hope to see the day they can be tested for with 100% accuracy,I'm sure most high level athletes will drop off the map having wrecked their endocrine systems.

[gnasher16 30,591]

You are never going to get goal line technology installed in Sunday league football....whether we like it or not amateur and recreational sport is a completely different thing to top level professional sport and can never be on a level playing field throughout its just naive to think it can,therefore the small advantages to be gained at the highest level have no relevance to lower level sport.

[Francie 6,368]

Yes gnash its the unfairness, but as adults it doesnt really bother me, its just worrying to me for it to be normalized, an young teens start taking them, i might sound a bit of an old time crying f****r lol but my son is seven an hes a good footballer, an even better kickboxer, hes an orange belt, an hel not be taking no peds, but in yrs to come his opponents might be pn them, an it makes a big difference mate, just look at the ufc for instance.

[Francie 6,368]

Lads are geared up in some ufc fights an kbocking boys out, then when they cant take them cause there fighting in certain place were there tested there not as good, ye know what i mean mate.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

Lads are geared up in some ufc fights an kbocking boys out, then when they cant take them cause there fighting in certain place were there tested there not as good, ye know what i mean mate.

good quote about the ufc really as a lot of Brazilians have miraculously gone off the boil now with UTADA testing even just the physical appearance of them is big but I get what gnasher says there is other factors allowed that can make a huge difference in sport that not all athletes can obtain

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

USADA LOL

[neems 2,406]

You are never going to get goal line technology installed in Sunday league football....whether we like it or not amateur and recreational sport is a completely different thing to top level professional sport and can never be on a level playing field throughout its just naive to think it can,therefore the small advantages to be gained at the highest level have no relevance to lower level sport.

 

Who'd have thought you could check your blood sugar with a pin prick 50 years ago?

 

You never know what's around the corner.

[Francie 6,368]

Ok I'll be honest since coming back from my operation I've been trying to build myself back up. Over the last few weeks I've been taking protein bars. The effects on my strength are insane and defiantly cannont be classed as natural. The progress ive made the last month since stRting these could not be done naturally but i dont see this as cheating . The scariest thing is anybody pro athletes included can walk into Holland and Barrett without prescription and pick these up. My question should I inform my family before they notice my visible gains or pick up on the mood swings caused by these bars.

Mate protein bars are just the scudd of the milk that noone wants lol i think

[.357shooter 1,273]

it would be nice to know what is going into these protein bars as i myself have been having two a week for 11 weeks and i am putting on a fair bit of size.after having had a break for 11 years i am suprised at my results so far.being far from a body builder but my chest,lats,shoulders and arms are bigger than the last time i trained and i did it for over 15years