Manchester Arena Bombs

[kanny 20,703]

I listen to that last night... Very touching when Gareth I think came on

[kanny 20,703]

Since when have British Police worn camouflage and used explosives to breach doors?

 

That's what is being reported from witnesses of the raids following the attack.

 

 

 

The police were very heavily armed. All of them. It was like something out of a war scene, said Mr Kinsey, It was terrifying. About thirty of them arrived in camouflage and riot gear and removed the wooden fence between two properties.

 

Then they attached a black strip to the door and there was a loud explosion. The door came off its hinges. The windows were shaking. The whole operation lasted about 90 seconds.

You must have got it wrong BH that sounds more like the Iranian embassy.. Coppers don't do that

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

Since when have British Police worn camouflage and used explosives to breach doors?

 

That's what is being reported from witnesses of the raids following the attack.

 

 

 

The police were very heavily armed. All of them. It was like something out of a war scene, said Mr Kinsey, It was terrifying. About thirty of them arrived in camouflage and riot gear and removed the wooden fence between two properties.

 

Then they attached a black strip to the door and there was a loud explosion. The door came off its hinges. The windows were shaking. The whole operation lasted about 90 seconds.

You must have got it wrong BH that sounds more like the Iranian embassy.. Coppers don't do that

 

 

The Police's new Counter Terrorism Specialist Firearms Officers (CTSFO) are basically a paramilitary unit. They operate in a very similar way to what the SAS would have done prior to the formation of the CTSFO. Explosive entry, fast roping etc etc. I guess they are now going the whole hog and using camouflage as well like many of the US paramilitary units.

 

From what I have read it's speculated that if an armed siege was to take place again it'd be these guys that are sent in rather than Tier 1 military, like the SAS. The SAS still have a role, but they no longer have exclusive rights to hostage rescue.

 

Just surprised how military-esque they had become.

Edited May 24, 2017 by Born Hunter

[Born Hunter 17,798]

And yes, that'd be 22SAS........

[kanny 20,703]

I see the army are being deployed on the streets but not to protect the people but to protect the politicians the royals and all there interests

[Born Hunter 17,798]

I see the army are being deployed on the streets but not to protect the people but to protect the politicians the royals and all there interests

 

I think you'll see military used to protect the obvious high value targets freeing up AFO's (Police) to protect more civilian areas. Deploying soldiers is really not desirable to politicians, armed police have less of a negative psychological effect than soldiers do.

 

Personally I got a much greater sense of security seeing 5 soldiers with assault rifles outside my hotel in Paris than I would have seeing plod. But that ain't how it works for most.

[scothunter 12,609]

The army might enjoy there new role.

 

coup d etat anyone LOL

[onion jonny 527]

 

all well and good been the tough guy on here, but spouting venom on here wont cut it, part of the problem is everyones fault and its the fact that we say these things and what we would do but then we sit back down in our comfy chair until the next time instead of finding someone and some way of changing the outlook of the majority, same as brexit we voted out at any cost now the stay voters are still chipping away at it and we will be lucky to leave,.

Some of us spent a decent chunk of our lives trying to change the outlook of the majority.........you know what they said ? they called us knuckle dragging scum and told us to sit down and shut up !........but heres the punchline do you know who most of those people were ?.......the exact same people who now keep pestering us to vote Ukip !!.........we actually had a chance of resolving this once but we f****d it because people who now demand loyalty couldn't give it when it was needed.

 

Not firing up on you mate but ive just about had a belly full of statements like that today.

 

no problem but i havent got my opinion across, i dont want another ukip nor any other new political party what i mean is we need someone actually we need lots but one will be a start we need someone already in a party the tories are the best bet but its someone thats inside talking on the behalf of sensible brits, not to kill or take to the street against anyone but to steer fellow mps in the best direction taking action on imigration as promised looking at the work that is been done in mosques and in the muslim community the banning of the burka for security reasons and not for religous reason and deporting anyone they consider a threat if that means them taking their family with them all the better, this will not happen in my life time neither will a civil war, the worst that will happen is an odd corner shop will get a bit of abuse and the abuser will end up get a fine, as you said gnasher people tried to look after their green and pleasant land only to be put down by their own.

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

Since when have British Police worn camouflage and used explosives to breach doors?

 

That's what is being reported from witnesses of the raids following the attack.

 

 

 

“The police were very heavily armed. All of them. It was like something out of a war scene,” said Mr Kinsey, “It was terrifying. About thirty of them arrived in camouflage and riot gear and removed the wooden fence between two properties.

“Then they attached a black strip to the door and there was a loud explosion. The door came off its hinges. The windows were shaking. The whole operation lasted about 90 seconds.

 

 

Manchester has a huge armed police and a large firearms unit (something like 160 people) who I think are involved with training and teaching the armed police and not just there to hand out certificates from what I understand.

 

I was a bit surprised that they didn't evacuate any of the houses, there is video from across the street...how do they know the house wasn't rigged with explosives?

[neems 2,406]

 

Unless we get up and sort it ourselves then she's right , as we seem to rely on the uk gov to protect us so how can ya blame them?

I think theres a lot of truth in that.....i have faith in my fellow man and think there are some very capable and willing people out there we just lack leadership as a nation.....we dont have a strong leader and are too fractured as a society to be together in a common goal......the only thing i look at these Muslim communities and admire is their togetherness....but i truly believe that if influential people,respected people and people with big names and reputations on a local scale was to bring people together in communities it would gradually unite people with a common goal across the nation........i dont think theres a lack of willing and capable British men eager to take the bull by the horns........we just lack organisation and leadership which in an ideal world would come from a political group but we are too disjointed to do that on a national scale......so for me local community groups,old fashioned community meetings,basic look after your own is the way forward.

 

 

You're right,but there will be legislation in place which can get any organisation closed down and dispersal orders given for any group who speak against 'British values',soon after this election.

 

There won't be any way for anything to even get off the ground if the legislation's (ab)used.

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

 

Since when have British Police worn camouflage and used explosives to breach doors?

 

That's what is being reported from witnesses of the raids following the attack.

 

 

 

“The police were very heavily armed. All of them. It was like something out of a war scene,” said Mr Kinsey, “It was terrifying. About thirty of them arrived in camouflage and riot gear and removed the wooden fence between two properties.

“Then they attached a black strip to the door and there was a loud explosion. The door came off its hinges. The windows were shaking. The whole operation lasted about 90 seconds.

 

 

Manchester has a huge armed police and a large firearms unit (something like 160 people) who I think are involved with training and teaching the armed police and not just there to hand out certificates from what I understand.

 

I was a bit surprised that they didn't evacuate any of the houses, there is video from across the street...how do they know the house wasn't rigged with explosives?

 

 

They'll have had intelligence on the place at a guess. That and it's no good giving the enemy a heads up really is it. A case of weighing up the risk with the necessity.

 

Yeah I was reading into the CTSFOs and Manchester is among something like six territorial forces to have them. The end goal is to have all SFOs in all forces trained to that level.

Edited May 24, 2017 by Born Hunter

[Kay 3,709]

 

 

all well and good been the tough guy on here, but spouting venom on here wont cut it, part of the problem is everyones fault and its the fact that we say these things and what we would do but then we sit back down in our comfy chair until the next time instead of finding someone and some way of changing the outlook of the majority, same as brexit we voted out at any cost now the stay voters are still chipping away at it and we will be lucky to leave,.

Some of us spent a decent chunk of our lives trying to change the outlook of the majority.........you know what they said ? they called us knuckle dragging scum and told us to sit down and shut up !........but heres the punchline do you know who most of those people were ?.......the exact same people who now keep pestering us to vote Ukip !!.........we actually had a chance of resolving this once but we f****d it because people who now demand loyalty couldn't give it when it was needed.

 

Not firing up on you mate but ive just about had a belly full of statements like that today.

 

no problem but i havent got my opinion across, i dont want another ukip nor any other new political party what i mean is we need someone actually we need lots but one will be a start we need someone already in a party the tories are the best bet but its someone thats inside talking on the behalf of sensible brits, not to kill or take to the street against anyone but to steer fellow mps in the best direction taking action on imigration as promised looking at the work that is been done in mosques and in the muslim community the banning of the burka for security reasons and not for religous reason and deporting anyone they consider a threat if that means them taking their family with them all the better, this will not happen in my life time neither will a civil war, the worst that will happen is an odd corner shop will get a bit of abuse and the abuser will end up get a fine, as you said gnasher people tried to look after their green and pleasant land only to be put down by their own.

 

I agree with your point regarding an mp that is true working class & has had the same struggles as us ordinary folk have had in life ,to my knowledge there isnt any such politician in any party that's like us ,certainly not a tory

[Nik_B 3,790]

Organisations like the EDL or Pegida are far more powerful and easier to set up than forming a political party and going down that rout which has been tried and failed many times already.

 

I think that is the way forward, we've had UKIP and others for years and years and they are useless

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Just heard somewhere in Swansea being evacuated. Any truth lads???

[Lenmcharristar 9,885]

Since when have British Police worn camouflage and used explosives to breach doors?

 

That's what is being reported from witnesses of the raids following the attack.

 

 

 

“The police were very heavily armed. All of them. It was like something out of a war scene,” said Mr Kinsey, “It was terrifying. About thirty of them arrived in camouflage and riot gear and removed the wooden fence between two properties.

 

“Then they attached a black strip to the door and there was a loud explosion. The door came off its hinges. The windows were shaking. The whole operation lasted about 90 seconds.

mr Kinsey is a dickhead, he was so terrified and offended that the riot cops raided the house of members of Isis house?? What about the innocent children and others who died at the hands of filfthy goat molesting scum. Shitslamic parasites here for a fre ride