Back Breeding

[brambles 3,335]

What a load of bollocks no wonder there's so much shit being bred

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,492]

I totally understand what process your utilising and why, however as effective as it may be in the replication of fowl, pigeons, earthdogs and even game dogs, I just wouldn't see the point of it for running dogs

 

For terriers etc the progenys increased bone , substance , type and hopefully other desired traits would be appealing as a quick fix way of establishing a type in your strain

 

But for a running jukel, the end product can still throw too varied in a relatively long chain due to the conglomeration of breeds utilised at the outset

 

Get your base pair squared , harden your heart and crack on

 

Be interesting to see what could happen 15 20 years down the pipe

[dai dogs 1,786]

Surely inbreeding would develop problems.why not use a good bitch and good dog that aren't related?

inbreeding may develop problems but back breeding can produce excellence , quality , tough offspring when bred from the Superior Base

[spindolero 1,120]

there's good chance you'll lose size in the bitches by generation inbreeding

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,492]

I always thought that spindo was more in brother sister matings ,

 

But as incestuous lineage goes, father daughter is regarded as the more natural of the variations

[dai dogs 1,786]

 

 

Never heard of a breeding method called Back Breeding , explain it please ?

Very surprised that you never heard of back breeding as its used with the dedicated breeders

 

Superior dog and bitch are bred a female pup is kept --- breed this female to her father -- keep a female pup then breed her to her father -- and so on always using the original sire . Takes years to produce the desired goal .

 

why didn't you just say line breeding.it'll be alright then.

 

Because its not called line breeding

[Tommmy27 94]

 

 

Surely inbreeding would develop problems.why not use a good bitch and good dog that aren't related?

inbreeding may develop problems but back breeding can produce excellence , quality , tough offspring when bred from the Superior Base

 

Why not breed a good bitch and a good dog????

[dai dogs 1,786]

What a load of bollocks no wonder there's so much shit being bred

If you breed out of 2 Superior dogs the chances are you wont get SHIT

[dai dogs 1,786]

 

 

Surely inbreeding would develop problems.why not use a good bitch and good dog that aren't related?

inbreeding may develop problems but back breeding can produce excellence , quality , tough offspring when bred from the Superior Base

 

Why not breed a good bitch and a good dog????

 

What do you think SUPERIOR means ?

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,492]

 

 

Surely inbreeding would develop problems.why not use a good bitch and good dog that aren't related?

inbreeding may develop problems but back breeding can produce excellence , quality , tough offspring when bred from the Superior Base

Why not breed a good bitch and a good dog????

As that may not pass the o p desired traits onwards

 

It leads to the establishment of an animal loaded with the almost perfect DNA fingerprint of the original stud dog as opposed to a percentage

 

Allowing the line to continue in an almost unabated type some time after the original mating

[Tommmy27 94]

I think.....

 

Why inbreed a dog!!

 

Just breed two good dogs that aren't related

[brambles 3,335]

 

 

What a load of bollocks no wonder there's so much shit being bred

If you breed out of 2 Superior dogs the chances are you wont get SHIT

what make a dog "superior"

[C.green 3,231]

I totally understand what process your utilising and why, however as effective as it may be in the replication of fowl, pigeons, earthdogs and even game dogs, I just wouldn't see the point of it for running dogs

 

For terriers etc the progenys increased bone , substance , type and hopefully other desired traits would be appealing as a quick fix way of establishing a type in your strain

 

But for a running jukel, the end product can still throw too varied in a relatively long chain due to the conglomeration of breeds utilised at the outset

 

Get your base pair squared , harden your heart and crack on

 

Be interesting to see what could happen 15 20 years down the pipe

Spot on stiff fair play I think that's why this can work with bull/greyhounds and saluki/greyhounds so well as its 2 breeds in the make up where as when your using proper lurchers it can muddy the water a fair bit and unexpected stuff can pop up down the line. Edited May 21, 2017 by C.green

[Allan P 1,152]

FFS breed two decent dogs and pick one of the pups put some decent food in it ,some time and effort and get on with it. Stop looking for the fecking super dog and enjoy yourself and your dog.

[jeemes 4,649]

 

Never heard of a breeding method called Back Breeding , explain it please ?

Very surprised that you never heard of back breeding as its used with the dedicated breeders

 

Superior dog and bitch are bred a female pup is kept --- breed this female to her father -- keep a female pup then breed her to her father -- and so on always using the original sire . Takes years to produce the desired goal ..

 

If by superior you mean very good workers, that is only half the battle Im afraid unless you know the dog you are using is genetically pure for all the traits you are after, physically and mentally. The chances of that are very small. You can only find this out for sure by test mating different bitches that have opposite traits and see if his better traits dominate,proving he is prepotent for that trait. These are test matings.Also remember Lurchers are cross breeds. You will need if you havnt already a basic knowledge of genetics and an understanding of Mendel. Not trying to put you off or anything, its by far the best and quickest way to get good results, but think what results you are after. If you want to reproduce the the origional sire then sibling matings are the quickest way. You didnt actually say what your goal was?