downsouth 7,588 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 If I was to have a rotty it'd have to be a German import or put of German breeding I just think they have more of a 'don't f*ck with me' look about them rather than the stuff we tend to breed over here which nowadays seem to be short in the leg and very big boned to the point they look overweight IMG_2900.PNG The best Rotts are from South African lines. Quote Link to post
Shaddy93 840 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 If I was to have a rotty it'd have to be a German import or put of German breeding I just think they have more of a 'don't f*ck with me' look about them rather than the stuff we tend to breed over here which nowadays seem to be short in the leg and very big boned to the point they look overweight IMG_2900.PNGThe best Rotts are from South African lines. Correct but there much harder to get hold of than the germans Quote Link to post
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 When we lived in Africa we had a rott from South Africa. Very loyal, stable and very protective Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nice but I'm not as intimidating as a rott gsd or mastiff type imo Perhaps not but a lot of male bouviers in particular tower over a rotty in real life difficult to judge from photos atb Quote Link to post
neems 2,406 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nice but I'm not as intimidating as a rott gsd or mastiff type imo Perhaps not but a lot of male bouviers in particular tower over a rotty in real life difficult to judge from photos atb Do they get used by police over there? Are they still stock dogs or just guard/protection/service dogs these days? I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh. Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 From what I can gather they are still fairly popular on farms over in France and Belgium in that region and some police forces and prison services still use them. They have also been used a fair bit in Scandinavian country's in service and they have some of the best working blood nowadays bit I am by no means an expert on the breed just did some research when I got mine a while back atb 1 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,776 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I dont know about the guarding instinct. Very impressive From what I can gather they are still fairly popular on farms over in France and Belgium in that region and some police forces and prison services still use them. They have also been used a fair bit in Scandinavian country's in service and they have some of the best working blood nowadays bit I am by no means an expert on the breed just did some research when I got mine a while back atb i dont know about the guarding instinct. Very impressive and powerful dogs to look at. Temperament wise the ones ive seen were spot on. ive worked in a few prisons as a electrician and in a few they have been resident in there as therapy dogs. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 from what ive heard and read about bouvier de flandres is they are very protective immensely strong and intelligent but not a dog for just leaving in the yard ,they need a job ,pretty much like most proper working dogs especially if they come from sport lines as they are bred for drive. unless you have the time for proper and continuous training id go for something a little more laid back ,most large breeds will warn off strangers ,most won't need a high driven schutzshund type dog that may need constant correction and training . Quote Link to post
ginger beard 4,653 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 any closer to choosing shaddy.?just get a goose. 2 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) from what ive heard and read about bouvier de flandres is they are very protective immensely strong and intelligent but not a dog for just leaving in the yard ,they need a job ,pretty much like most proper working dogs especially if they come from sport lines as they are bred for drive. unless you have the time for proper and continuous training id go for something a little more laid back ,most large breeds will warn off strangers ,most won't need a high driven schutzshund type dog that may need constant correction and training . Agree about not just leaving them alone in a yard but the bouvier is not in my experience with them a high energy dog or highly string like many of the gsd, malanois and Doberman types (haven't had any experience with rottys) once they are trained up (which can be testing as they most definitely like to be boss) and past this puppy stage they are generally known for being very steady and sensible. They naturally guard but that generally involves placing themselves in what they deem to be the best place to guard and then looking like a black shag pile rug for the remainder until required. That said mine has always been well exercised daily especially in her youth but then any type of dogs such as those discussed will need a decent exercise routine jmo Edited May 23, 2017 by matt1979 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nice but I'm not as intimidating as a rott gsd or mastiff type imoPerhaps not but a lot of male bouviers in particular tower over a rotty in real life difficult to judge from photos atb Lad I know who kept Bouviers had a big Rottweiler as well but he looked tiny next to his big male Bouvier Quote Link to post
Shaddy93 840 Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 any closer to choosing shaddy.?just get a goose. I'm torn between a well gsd off my mate on here and a curcasian shepherd dog iv Hurd good and bad things abit this breed my uncle use to have one in his road side cafe with him back in the day and he would have it on a chain round the back to protect his generator from the pikeys taking it whilst a girl ran the cafe over night, now he keeps one as a pet he never had any issues with them and his kids but then again iv Hurd there not very good with kids, whatever dog I have I will be assisted with in the training programme purely because although I would never leave the dog alone with my kids I'm not always at home and I couldn't live with myself if any of my dogs got hold of one of the kids Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 from what ive heard and read about bouvier de flandres is they are very protective immensely strong and intelligent but not a dog for just leaving in the yard ,they need a job ,pretty much like most proper working dogs especially if they come from sport lines as they are bred for drive. unless you have the time for proper and continuous training id go for something a little more laid back ,most large breeds will warn off strangers ,most won't need a high driven schutzshund type dog that may need constant correction and training . Agree about not just leaving them alone in a yard but the bouvier is not in my experience with them a high energy dog or highly string like many of the gsd, malanois and Doberman types (haven't had any experience with rottys) once they are trained up (which can be testing as they most definitely like to be boss) and past this puppy stage they are generally known for being very steady and sensible. They naturally guard but that generally involves placing themselves in what they deem to be the best place to guard and then looking like a black shag pile rug for the remainder until required. That said mine has always been well exercised daily especially in her youth but then any type of dogs such as those discussed will need a decent exercise routine jmo yes mate I was more meaning breeds in general that are bred for competing being highly strung and not the bouvier in particular , Should have hit return ,as that was meant for protection dogs generally . Big responsibility keeping a dog that is willing to attack In this day and age. Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 from what ive heard and read about bouvier de flandres is they are very protective immensely strong and intelligent but not a dog for just leaving in the yard ,they need a job ,pretty much like most proper working dogs especially if they come from sport lines as they are bred for drive. unless you have the time for proper and continuous training id go for something a little more laid back ,most large breeds will warn off strangers ,most won't need a high driven schutzshund type dog that may need constant correction and training . Agree about not just leaving them alone in a yard but the bouvier is not in my experience with them a high energy dog or highly string like many of the gsd, malanois and Doberman types (haven't had any experience with rottys) once they are trained up (which can be testing as they most definitely like to be boss) and past this puppy stage they are generally known for being very steady and sensible. They naturally guard but that generally involves placing themselves in what they deem to be the best place to guard and then looking like a black shag pile rug for the remainder until required. That said mine has always been well exercised daily especially in her youth but then any type of dogs such as those discussed will need a decent exercise routine jmo yes mate I was more meaning breeds in general that are bred for competing being highly strung and not the bouvier in particular , Should have hit return ,as that was meant for protection dogs generally . Big responsibility keeping a dog that is willing to attack In this day and age. Agreed Quote Link to post
Shaddy93 840 Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 My old man has a first cross bedlington whippet anyone steps foot on the premises she wakes the whole street up and as proven she will bite and shake, anybody ever had any experience with beddy crosses making good guard dogs? I know there not the most intimidating dogs to look at and I'm not thinking of having one it's just a question Quote Link to post
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