Greyman 27,973 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 there is the remnants of one just below my house , I knew it was a pump of some sort and I always wondered how it worked very interestingIf that was me id be tempted to try and get it going Greg surely the only moving parts are the 1 way valves so if they could be replaced should it not just work ? Be a good little personal achievement to say you got it working again. I'm tempted to have a fiddle with it . Any idea where the water would be pumped to ? The farm itself or to the field for animal water and such not wishing to sound to much of a p***y, but I would take the brass name plate off if you can for several reasons firstly it's made of brass also the steel nuts holding it on are oxidised to dust so it will just fall off soon anyway or some mooching old scaly with know respect for boundary,s will come along and help themselves and finally the rest is just a rusty old cylinder and all the history is on the plaque, so take it home give it a soak in vinaigrette, polish it up and put it on your mantlepeice then if in the future you do decide to restore the pump you will still have the original plaque to put back on and if not you may have a few quids worth of history with some accompanying pictures, win win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 44,949 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 That would be theft by finding I believe lol...cracking piece of history that...belongs in St Fagans museum or the like.atb dc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,613 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 there is the remnants of one just below my house , I knew it was a pump of some sort and I always wondered how it worked very interestingIf that was me id be tempted to try and get it going Greg surely the only moving parts are the 1 way valves so if they could be replaced should it not just work ? Be a good little personal achievement to say you got it working again. I'm tempted to have a fiddle with it . Any idea where the water would be pumped to ? The farm itself or to the field for animal water and such not wishing to sound to much of a p***y, but I would take the brass name plate off if you can for several reasons firstly it's made of brass also the steel nuts holding it on are oxidised to dust so it will just fall off soon anyway or some mooching old scaly with know respect for boundary,s will come along and help themselves and finally the rest is just a rusty old cylinder and all the history is on the plaque, so take it home give it a soak in vinaigrette, polish it up and put it on your mantlepeice then if in the future you do decide to restore the pump you will still have the original plaque to put back on and if not you may have a few quids worth of history with some accompanying pictures, win win The ideas right but the farmer dont want it moved . Altho her eyes did light up when i said i might be able to get it back up and running again . Few more pictures from today if anybody is still interested This is smack bang right next to the waterfall . The mossy wall on the right is the starting side of the waterfall . It has a concrete base to it that sounds hollow On the top level of the waterfall a few metres up the stream these are exposed . im not sure why their above the waterfall Also a little on from this is this little dam type thing Also as to the waterfall. The farm lady said that they were cement bags that were used to create it . I shaved a bit of the moss off and it was sharp jagged black . Could be hardened cement from years ago but id have thought it would have been smoothed over the years 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,613 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 That would be theft by finding I believe lol...cracking piece of history that...belongs in St Fagans museum or the like.atb dc St fagans . Aint been there since school Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 That looks like rock maybe cemented in place so the edges are pointing upwards, I think it might be a kind of baffle to dissipate the energy of the water during flooding? P.S I've seen something like that before and thought it was just a rock outcrop in the stream bed but there were small weirs there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 blake hydram pictured in hydraulic ram pump on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/John_Blake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Sorry for the spam, that stuff at the top is what is called Riprap I think, it is a way of protecting the structure against erosion, there is the same at the bottom probably, built with rocks, stones and maybe cement, directly below it to stop the falling water from excavating a deep hole and undermining the dam. If you are interested I found this paper from 1975 which has all kinds of info but your dam seems quite interesting, it really does look like it was built with sacks of cement as previously suggested. DESIGN OF SMALL WATER STORAGE AND EROSION CONTROL DAMS https://dspace.library.colostate.edu/bitstream/handle/10217/52669/CER_Wood.pdf?sequence=1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 44,949 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 That would be theft by finding I believe lol...cracking piece of history that...belongs in St Fagans museum or the like.atb dc St fagans . Aint been there since school a cracking free day out even for us big kids,you want to get down there there pal.atb dc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,973 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 That would be theft by finding I believe lol...cracking piece of history that...belongs in St Fagans museum or the like.atb dc St fagans . Aint been there since school a cracking free day out even for us big kids,you want to get down there there pal.atb dc I went there as a kid about 45 year ago, I took my kids there when they were small as well, as you say nice place 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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