Labour Manifesto

[arcticgun 4,548]

Two versions of a system that is not working imho........pricks the lot of them.

of the systems working ok for them and there paymasters, not for us though who its supposed to be for,

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Esteemed gentlemen, of the panel. What are you going to do about it?

[kanny 20,619]

Esteemed gentlemen, of the panel. What are you going to do about it?

In reality what can you do as power corrupts its always been the same since day dot it doesn't matter who's in charge there always going to have there fingers in the till...that said I do believe there's power in the masses still the real problem is getting everyone to agree.

[BGD 6,436]

Real lack of content in this thread.

 

Here's the video of the manifesto launch

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjCoMIJvQm4#t=590s

 

And here's a link to the full manifesto

 

http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto2017

[Paulnix 426]

Esteemed gentlemen, of the panel. What are you going to do about it?

 

I might do a profile picture filter on facebook.

[jukel123 8,211]

Look at the improvements Labour has made to the lives of working people over the last 100 years:........................

State pensions, the NHS, universal vaccinations, affordable, publicly- owned rented housing, an education system which allows access to the top universities for the working class, sick pay, employment rights, the minimum wage. Even under the Blair years the Labour government doubled spending on the NHS, and made huge inroads into child and pensioner poverty. All of these improvements were viciously opposed by the tories. The only thing I can think of that the tories have introduced for working people was the sale of council houses to sitting tenants, which, in turn, has meant that young people are now grossly overcharged for rent. Yes Blair should be locked up because of Iraq, and yes he introduced the free vote on fox hunting. But remember Blair is now history and as many tories voted for fox hunting abolition as did labour MPs. I will be voting Labour because it's the duty of every working class person to be loyal to their class. Leopards don't change their spots, the conservative party exists to put more money into the pockets of their own monied and privileged class and to screw the workers as much as they can. The Labour party always faces the right wing press demonising its personalities and policies. Millions of pounds is spent persuading Joe Public that we can't have a just, decent society because the Labour Party can't be trusted on the economy. Its actually the other way round, the tories can't be trusted to run an economy which isn't skewed to favour the rich. Agreed the Labour party and the tory party have become almost indistinguishable over the last few decades, but you can't argue that with this manifesto. It is a genuine step in the right direction. Read it, let's take back control of our water, (whoever heard of having to buy water ffs) the railway network and the power supply. Let's spend 37 billion over 5 years on getting the NHS back up to a world class service. Let's have free childcare and free university tuition. Many other European countries have these rights. Don't believe the tory press when they say the figures don't add up. It's their figures that don't add up.

Edited May 16, 2017 by jukel123

[ChrisJones 7,975]

I might do a profile picture filter on facebook.

I'm going to double down and start a thread about how it wasn't like this in my day... That'll show 'em.

[C556 351]

Esteemed gentlemen, of the panel. What are you going to do about it?

Vote Tories in the hope of a 'hard brexit', and to stick two fingers up to the SNP.

[WILF 47,150]

On the subject of water charges, over here they did something about it........they refused to fecking pay and they had to scrap them !!

That would never happen in the UK.

 

What am I going to do about it?......good question Chris.......I suppose I will do what is in my power to do, keep preaching the message and hope enough people catch on and hope that, eventually, the world will turn.

[Mr Wasp 187]

Saw this on facebook and thought i would leave it here, just incase any of you believe the labour bullshit.

 

For those of you reciting the 'Tories defend the rich' argument, read this. It's worth it, I assure you.
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay £1.
The sixth would pay £3.
The seventh would pay £7..
The eighth would pay £12.
The ninth would pay £18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.

So, that's what they decided to do..
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So the first four men were unaffected.

They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men?
The paying customers?
How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?
They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.
And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving).

The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving).

The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving).

The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man.

He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got £10!"
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me
"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

I heard on TV today that it cos the establishment (and therefore the taxpayer) £14 million pounds to keep Ian Brady alive whilst he was in custody, so any potential future Government should take this into mind when asking for our votes even if they trying to be honest about the tax hikes they intend to implement, I'm guessing theres a lot of people who are costing the same rotting away on life sentences, no good too anyone , no hope of being released, so don't vote for any of them whilst they are wasting money like this, and certainly don't allow any more tax hikes as if they have enough money too lash that on one evil scum bag then they already have far too much money I d wager you don't have enough or in most cases wont?

 

Labour are dead barring some mad alliance which in this day and age would no surprise me at all, but an alliance would just go further to show that we just a mess in reality, our politics are all over the shop, we been lied too that much we cant even make a decent decision , its hardy a choice when your faced wih choosing who going o damage you he leas in he long run, its piss poor and unacceptable

Yes except in our tax system the first four would be paid to drink the richest would get a fancy accountant and pay nothing and the ones in the middle would foot all the bill but be to knackered to enjoy the beer all while they're being told they're the scum of the earth and the reason the world's f****d. Oh and that there's a bunch of Syrians in the vault that they need to buy beer for aswell Edited May 16, 2017 by JDHUNTING

[jukel123 8,211]

On the subject of water charges, over here they did something about it........they refused to fecking pay and they had to scrap them !!

That would never happen in the UK.

 

What am I going to do about it?......good question Chris.......I suppose I will do what is in my power to do, keep preaching the message and hope enough people catch on and hope that, eventually, the world will turn.

So the Irish ran bailiffs out of town and refused to pay for their water. I like the sound of that. I might come and live next door to you mate, I qualify for a passport as my mother was Irish. We could have many a fight over a pint.lol.

Edited May 16, 2017 by jukel123

[kanny 20,619]

Look at the improvements Labour has made to the lives of working people over the last 100 years:........................

State pensions, the NHS, universal vaccinations, affordable, publicly- owned rented housing, an education system which allows access to the top universities for the working class, sick pay, employment rights, the minimum wage. Even under the Blair years the Labour government doubled spending on the NHS, and made huge inroads into child and pensioner poverty. All of these improvements were viciously opposed by the tories. The only thing I can think of that the tories have introduced for working people was the sale of council houses to sitting tenants, which, in turn, has meant that young people are now grossly overcharged for rent. Yes Blair should be locked up because of Iraq, and yes he introduced the free vote on fox hunting. But remember Blair is now history and as many tories voted for fox hunting abolition as did labour MPs. I will be voting Labour because it's the duty of every working class person to be loyal to their class. Leopards don't change their spots, the conservative party exists to put more money into the pockets of their own monied and privileged class and to screw the workers as much as they can. The Labour party always faces the right wing press demonising its personalities and policies. Millions of pounds is spent persuading Joe Public that we can't have a just, decent society because the Labour Party can't be trusted on the economy. Its actually the other way round, the tories can't be trusted to run an economy which isn't skewed to favour the rich. Agreed the Labour party and the tory party have become almost indistinguishable over the last few decades, but you can't argue that with this manifesto. It is a genuine step in the right direction. Read it, let's take back control of our water, (whoever heard of having to buy water ffs) the railway network and the power supply. Let's spend 37 billion over 5 years on getting the NHS back up to a world class service. Let's have free childcare and free university tuition. Many other European countries have these rights. Don't believe the tory press when they say the figures don't add up. It's their figures that don't add up.

Times have changed I'm afraid your just falling into that category of I'm voting Labour coz my grandpa did by the sounds of it and thats exactly what they want because they have to do nothing for your vote.

[jukel123 8,211]

 

Look at the improvements Labour has made to the lives of working people over the last 100 years:........................

State pensions, the NHS, universal vaccinations, affordable, publicly- owned rented housing, an education system which allows access to the top universities for the working class, sick pay, employment rights, the minimum wage. Even under the Blair years the Labour government doubled spending on the NHS, and made huge inroads into child and pensioner poverty. All of these improvements were viciously opposed by the tories. The only thing I can think of that the tories have introduced for working people was the sale of council houses to sitting tenants, which, in turn, has meant that young people are now grossly overcharged for rent. Yes Blair should be locked up because of Iraq, and yes he introduced the free vote on fox hunting. But remember Blair is now history and as many tories voted for fox hunting abolition as did labour MPs. I will be voting Labour because it's the duty of every working class person to be loyal to their class. Leopards don't change their spots, the conservative party exists to put more money into the pockets of their own monied and privileged class and to screw the workers as much as they can. The Labour party always faces the right wing press demonising its personalities and policies. Millions of pounds is spent persuading Joe Public that we can't have a just, decent society because the Labour Party can't be trusted on the economy. Its actually the other way round, the tories can't be trusted to run an economy which isn't skewed to favour the rich. Agreed the Labour party and the tory party have become almost indistinguishable over the last few decades, but you can't argue that with this manifesto. It is a genuine step in the right direction. Read it, let's take back control of our water, (whoever heard of having to buy water ffs) the railway network and the power supply. Let's spend 37 billion over 5 years on getting the NHS back up to a world class service. Let's have free childcare and free university tuition. Many other European countries have these rights. Don't believe the tory press when they say the figures don't add up. It's their figures that don't add up.

Times have changed I'm afraid your just falling into that category of I'm voting Labour coz my grandpa did by the sounds of it and thats exactly what they want because they have to do nothing for your vote.

 

No mate, I'm voting Labour for what they offer in the future.

[BGD 6,436]

Hope jukel doesn't mind me answering for him but I know for fact he isn't in the category of "I'm voting Labour coz my grandpa did" he, like me, was turned off the Labour party for years and has only come back to them now because they're putting out policy proposals he agrees with.