The Price Can Not Be Right On This Pup...ffs.. !!!!

[gnasher16 30,118]

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

Those puppy farmers really know what they're doing, with the small litter size of frenchies and all the different colours they should hold their price for a bit longer than other breeds.

Folk will still end up with a load of brood stock that's worth feck all eventually though, I've seen it happen so many times in other animals when breeding them became a get rich quick scheme, eventually you hit critical mass of breeders and no one can shift any of the offspring.

Lot of the reptiles and small exotic furries go that way.the new must have pet comes along.

Yep I made a fair bit of cash on the Royal Python morphs a good few years ago when albinos and pieds were selling for thousands. Luckily got out long before the massive crash in the market that happened recently, knew some folk left with collections they had paid 10s of thousands for that they could hardly give away

The problem is everyone that buys a puppy (or hatchling or whatever) has the plan to breed or stud out to make their money back and eventually you just end up with a totally over saturated market.

The UK is experiencing similar with Goshawks, especially white Siberian Goshawks. 10s of thousands spent on stock that is depreciating yearly..................another few years & I might afford a white male...haha

[gnasher16 30,118]

 

 

Totally agree, Greyman, but difference between a working breed and a show breed is that one has to look a certain way which means the gene pool is smaller to keep breeding closer related animals for aesthetics. Working breeds are for other characteristics but when you start keeping those characteristics and certain looks, you start to decrease the biodiversity in the gene pool. You end up with health problems and lower intelligence.

 

Ive had a little bit of experience of inbred suppression only with dogs of extreme athletic prowess and that was a long hard process requiring plenty of patience for everyone who kept the bloodline......another 20 years of similar breeding would have been impossible so to have the same in dogs bred for show i truly believe the dogs will more than likely end up no more and people will be forced to breed away from the source or do a major outcross just to save the breed/s.

[Accip74 7,112]

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

Edited May 15, 2017 by Accip74

[king 11,972]

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

I agree.

I'm sure sheep farmers don't do it for fun.

They do it to make a living.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

I agree.

I'm sure sheep farmers don't do it for fun.

They do it to make a living.

There is a guy a 100m from here breeding Shar Pei's, must have 20+ dogs? I've never seen him or his family out with one of those dogs in over a year I've been on this street. The yard is always full of shit & I've bored my mrs moaning like fcuk about the bloke....haha...

...But if it was goats, would I give a fcuk? It's just stock to a lot of these folk, I don't agree with it, but how different is it to producing any animal for demand?

[BGD 6,436]

 

 

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

I agree.

I'm sure sheep farmers don't do it for fun.

They do it to make a living.

There is a guy a 100m from here breeding Shar Pei's, must have 20+ dogs? I've never seen him or his family out with one of those dogs in over a year I've been on this street. The yard is always full of shit & I've bored my mrs moaning like fcuk about the bloke....haha...

...But if it was goats, would I give a fcuk? It's just stock to a lot of these folk, I don't agree with it, but how different is it to producing any animal for demand?

I don't think there's anything really wrong with "farming" dogs but even livestock should have a basic level of humane treatment and IMO with an intelligent social species like dogs that includes some form of socialisation and enrichment, not just left in kennels to eat, shit and breed until they die.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

I agree.

I'm sure sheep farmers don't do it for fun.

They do it to make a living.

There is a guy a 100m from here breeding Shar Pei's, must have 20+ dogs? I've never seen him or his family out with one of those dogs in over a year I've been on this street. The yard is always full of shit & I've bored my mrs moaning like fcuk about the bloke....haha...

...But if it was goats, would I give a fcuk? It's just stock to a lot of these folk, I don't agree with it, but how different is it to producing any animal for demand?

I don't think there's anything really wrong with "farming" dogs but even livestock should have a basic level of humane treatment and IMO with an intelligent social species like dogs that includes some form of socialisation and enrichment, not just left in kennels to eat, shit and breed until they die.

Yes I agree with that mate...

[gnasher16 30,118]

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

 

Horses and cattle serve a purpose....what purpose do these deformed little dogs serve other than some silly bitch walking around with it under her arm ?........if a farmer purposely bred and sold poor quality unhealthy cattle then he wouldn't be a farmer for very long.......these shit quality dogs are getting sold for top money by people with no pride in what they are doing.....if they did have pride they wouldnt purposely breed poor animals.......or do you accept the worse is better theory....because im f****d if i ever will.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

 

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

Horses and cattle serve a purpose....what purpose do these deformed little dogs serve other than some silly bitch walking around with it under her arm ?........if a farmer purposely bred and sold poor quality unhealthy cattle then he wouldn't be a farmer for very long.......these shit quality dogs are getting sold for top money by people with no pride in what they are doing.....if they did have pride they wouldnt purposely breed poor animals.......or do you accept the worse is better theory....because im f****d if i ever will.

I don't agree with it at all, I think it's shite, just the same as I think a lot of farming is shite........but it's all farming. You said why don't people make their own money, instead of out of dogs, but surely it's the same as anyone making money from producing animals, goldfish to horses or healthy dogs? just thought it was a strange comment about how people made their money.......

Personally I'd be happy to see these people regulated more than they are....

Edited May 15, 2017 by Accip74

[Greyman 28,439]

But who,s the bigger c**t the breeder or the buyer, it's just supply and demand, if the retards stop buying know one would breed them

[king 11,972]

 

 

How degrading and embarrassing to have to prostitute dogs out like that to earn a pound note most folk i know have a bit more pride than to have to resort to having dogs earn them money that they cant get themselves !

 

But is it not the same as selling any livestock, be it horses or cattle? Are those people in the horse business embarrassing themselves & lacking pride?

I'm no fan of peddling all these dogs, but I can't see much difference in any livestock business really........

Horses and cattle serve a purpose....what purpose do these deformed little dogs serve other than some silly bitch walking around with it under her arm ?........if a farmer purposely bred and sold poor quality unhealthy cattle then he wouldn't be a farmer for very long.......these shit quality dogs are getting sold for top money by people with no pride in what they are doing.....if they did have pride they wouldnt purposely breed poor animals.......or do you accept the worse is better theory....because im f****d if i ever will.

People will pay stupid money for them dogs.

So let them carry on.

I don't totally agree with puppy farmers.

But I think if the dogs are kept and looked after well.

Then they are better than heroine and crack dealers in my eyes.

[nans pat 2,575]

Over here when the army was flying helicopters over farms,they were putting horses down and getting a vet certificate saying the chopper scared it n it run into a wall ect ect,same for cows putting in inflated prices .the vets were in on the scam two of them got jail.there was millions claimed.lol

[C556 351]

I'd have no problems with puppy farming if if bred healthier, better quality dogs, but it doesn't. The only way to breed better quality, healthier dogs is to breed them for their working abilities. The health and abilities of show dogs will continue to degrade down the generations as has happened already.

[gnasher16 30,118]

 

You said why don't people make their own money, instead of out of dogs, but surely it's the same as anyone making money from producing animals, goldfish to horses or healthy dogs? just thought it was a strange comment about how people made their money.......

 

You thought it was strange to hear somebody on a working dog forum saying that purposely breeding poor quality unhealthy show dogs for lots of money is wrong ?

 

Ok well i dont really no what else to say !