Do Politicians Understand Politics?

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Maybe politicians do understand politics - the slimy world where they thrive.

 

It's the normal people that they don't understand.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Maybe politicians do understand politics - the slimy world where they thrive.

 

It's the normal people that they don't understand.

 

Today it's two different games. We see right and wrong. They see win and lose.

[twobob 1,497]

if labour understood politics Corbyn would resign and Abbott would be hiding under a stone somewhere

be a big stone to hide that flucking creature

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

Maybe politicians do understand politics - the slimy world where they thrive.

 

It's the normal people that they don't understand.

 

Today it's two different games. We see right and wrong. They see win and lose.

 

 

A fair point Chris but what is the incentive for them to do what is right?

 

Which politician would win out of one with a sensible 20 year plan or the one who promises free cash for all and to hell with the future....what do they say again? people get the government they deserve.

 

I would like to see laws in place to prevent over spending/borrowing in the bad times and force them to put money in to a war chest during the good

[tatsblisters 10,122]

I find it sad that their is some ex miners and steel workers who think Corbin will return the country to their halcyon days of nationalised industries and trade union power and everything will be like it was back in the day .https://www.(!64.56:886/Mick4Rotherham/?fref=hovercard

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[Nik_B 3,790]

I find it sad that their is some ex miners and steel workers who think Corbin will return the country to their halcyon days of nationalised industries and trade union power and everything will be like it was back in the day .

 

I think there is an argument for subsidised industry at least but that would require some protectionism and tarrifs on imports to make it work.

 

If there was some kind of WW3 we would be in way more sh*t that in the first two wars since we don't have the strategic reserves of energy and minerals and surely that should be taken in to account.

 

I also think that if you weigh(ed?) up the financial and social costs of unemployed people including the knock on effects down future generations nationalised or part nationalised industries may have looked less of a problem.

 

We definitely can't return to the old days where no one even knew the operating costs of their mines or plants, but wouldn't it give more self respect to people to earn their money instead of benefits and give kids a role model within their family rather than have seen dad on benefits half his life? But then the left would complain of slave labour and we'd be right back where we started.

[tatsblisters 10,122]

 

I find it sad that their is some ex miners and steel workers who think Corbin will return the country to their halcyon days of nationalised industries and trade union power and everything will be like it was back in the day .

 

I think there is an argument for subsidised industry at least but that would require some protectionism and tarrifs on imports to make it work.

 

If there was some kind of WW3 we would be in way more sh*t that in the first two wars since we don't have the strategic reserves of energy and minerals and surely that should be taken in to account.

 

I also think that if you weigh(ed?) up the financial and social costs of unemployed people including the knock on effects down future generations nationalised or part nationalised industries may have looked less of a problem.

 

We definitely can't return to the old days where no one even knew the operating costs of their mines or plants, but wouldn't it give more self respect to people to earn their money instead of benefits and give kids a role model within their family rather than have seen dad on benefits half his life? But then the left would complain of slave labour and we'd be right back where we started.

 

I agree Nick but thinking Corbin would be that botherd about the country north of Watford gap I don't think him and his London elitist left wing bohemians would give us a second thought tbh .Just heard today he sneaked into the town I live surrounded by his merryband of Rotherhams CSE deniers.

[Nik_B 3,790]

He would put taxes up on the middle class and wealthy, start borrowing like any normal socialist and we'd be bankrupt within 5 years.

 

I think Corbyn is leader so Labour DOESN'T accidentally get back into power....why would they want to fix their own mess?

[northern lad 2,292]

He would put taxes up on the middle class and wealthy, start borrowing like any normal socialist and we'd be bankrupt within 5 years.

 

I think Corbyn is leader so Labour DOESN'T accidentally get back into power....why would they want to fix their own mess?

 

Spot on Nik....boom and bust.Boils my piss when Corbyn and his conies bang on about austerity and the Tories "cuts",Theres a reason they had to be made,the poison chalice handed down from Brown/Blair,I don't know how they've the nerve to bring austerity measures up....if I were a labour MP Id avoid the words like the plague....

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

He would put taxes up on the middle class and wealthy, start borrowing like any normal socialist and we'd be bankrupt within 5 years.

 

I think Corbyn is leader so Labour DOESN'T accidentally get back into power....why would they want to fix their own mess?

 

Spot on Nik....boom and bust.Boils my piss when Corbyn and his conies bang on about austerity and the Tories "cuts",Theres a reason they had to be made,the poison chalice handed down from Brown/Blair,I don't know how they've the nerve to bring austerity measures up....if I were a labour MP Id avoid the words like the plague....

 

 

Yeh I totally agree, Brown was never going to win he didn't have the charisma, it probably was planned and maybe some of his gaffs were? I have a feeling passing the baton back and forth to each other is like some kind of sport

[C556 351]

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[The Seeker 3,048]

I will never forgive Brown (or labour) for selling half of our countries gold reserves at a riduculas price.

[WILF 47,354]

I will tell folk something for nothing, politicians understand the game a million times better than your average joe soap on the street.......We see the face of the MP, what we don't see is the thousands of people behind each one, the companies paid to analyse algorithms, research population profiles, work out the correct literature and advertising to send to any specific group of people in any given area, voting patterns, incomes, what car you drive, what sort of house do you own or do you rent?........they know just what to say to you to press your buttons in any given way.

You don't see the thousands of civil servants with files full of policy and legislation all stored away waiting for the opportune moment to pull it off the shelf in any given event or scenario.

 

It's us that don't understand politics, them c**ts understand it only too well.........it would blow your ordinary blokes mind !!

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[arcticgun 4,548]

Corbyn is deluded seriously deluded, maybe last century he would of fitted in nicely lol Labour is as dead as a door nail and only stupidity will ever fetch it back, next time they ever get elected it should be law too keep a register of who voted them in and then when they ruin the country yet again, those individuals should be made to pay for the mess and not those who didn't vote for them, they have left this country in a real mire one that it wont ever recover from in the form we once knew it, Labour alone is responsible for that, Maggie may of done her bit of damage in her time, but what they did in the years they ruled was sinful, shameful and should of lead to charges and sentences, its left this country unstable and vulnerable at a time we should of been standing head and shoulders ahead of most other countries,

[WILF 47,354]

The economy is basically a giant Ponzi scheme......governments are spending the money of future investors.

It's simple really, they worked out that since human being will continue to be born then of course they will keep paying in........unfortunately they are even spending more than that so that all we are doing is servicing the debt.