Scientific Article About The 9/11 Towers

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

 

Is this comprehensive enough?http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/nope_it_was_always_already_wrong

Like I said maybe it was used before, you're focusing on a minor detail as I said "it's entirely possible someone used it".

 

Maybe 'popularised' would make you happier?

Indeed it would. I need my ducks in a row! You geologists are far to easy going. LOL

 

 

+/-50% is how we role

 

Anyway what I was trying to say was that the intelligence services have always had very deep ties with newspapers and TV stations and have been in a very powerful position to push agendas or lambaste descenting views. This is nothing new but with modern developments in communication, TV and especially the internet they have to double down even harder today and I'm not even sure they've figured out how to control the narrative.

 

I imagine the percentage of sceptical people today is far more than 50 or 100 years ago where they could get away with atrocity propaganda like this without anyone questioning it. They still do it of course, fake gas attacks, dead babies and the like but there are a lot more people who question these images.

 

[Born Hunter 17,843]

Oh I'm on board with the plausibility of corruption mate. I don't deny reason just because I'm very skeptical of conspiracies. Simply for the reasons I have stated I find it hard to get behind the controlled demo one. The authors may indeed raise good points though.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Oh I'm on board with the plausibility of corruption mate. I don't deny reason just because I'm very skeptical of conspiracies. Simply for the reasons I have stated I find it hard to get behind the controlled demo one. The authors may indeed raise good points though.

 

Yes I agree I do think they raise good points and as long as it's scientific it can be refuted by more science and that is what I would like to see more of rather than scream blue murder at anyone who doesn't follow the line.

 

I often break my own rule which is to avoid the really big ones like 9/11 but my curiosity always gets the better of me and the so called loonies do actually come up with some very good questions which deserve answers. Having said that people do seem to be very conditioned to assume conspiracy theorist tin foil hat at the very mention of something like this which then destroys any credibility when trying to show people very real conspiracies i.e Libya, Ukraine and Syria all of which are quite obvious plots to overthrow governments and which there is ample evidence to support them.

 

Maybe the CIA scheme has worked after all

[Nik_B 3,790]

p.s this is a good article on atrocity propaganda I don't believe for a minute our governments suddenly stopped such successful propaganda....makes you think

 

https://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/atrocity-propaganda#

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Interesting thread this...

 

Just out of curiosity, if it is a conspiracy what will come of it?

 

If they turned round, today, and said it was an inside job and that this whole thing was a false flag/con job/whatever angle they're arguing, would it make a shit of difference?

 

Or would someone start a thread saying it was fake news and offer an alternative conspiracy that it was a terrorist plot to strike fear into the hearts of the west?

 

You can offer all of the evidence. All of the conspiracy. All of the time but while you'll educate the masses it won't make a difference to the situation.

[lukey 1,621]

Maybe bin laden hired people to go in unknown to everyone and rig the buildings up because in some people's minds that can be done right??

 

And why do people always talk about how neat the towers fell lol, how the fuk was it neat?

[lukey 1,621]

Because they didnt topple or come down partially or even in stages, they came straight down. But they were basically concrete slabs (on each floor) with a square hole in the middle so you might expect that more than you would with a typical 'building'.

But you had the weight of 17 floors on one tower and 22 on the other come down on the floors below? The was parts flying of on the vids I have seen!

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

Because they didnt topple or come down partially or even in stages, they came straight down. But they were basically concrete slabs (on each floor) with a square hole in the middle so you might expect that more than you would with a typical 'building'.

But you had the weight of 17 floors on one tower and 22 on the other come down on the floors below? The was parts flying of on the vids I have seen!

 

 

You have to read the article and the other stuff those scientists did, they claim that the building came down in free fall, that is not like a concertina where floors fell down in chunks or one after another which is what would happen if the weight of the upper floors was causing the lower floors to fail.

 

The best thing in my opinion is to look at both scientific arguments and only if you are interested because if not it's a waste of time. No matter what science is presented the official story wont ever change.

[lukey 1,621]

What I would like to know is how can they do these types of test to be even % sure unless they have almost exact replica of the event? You can show a simulation on a computer screen as much as you want but it's not the same is it? I'm a bit of a dumb c**t so struggle to get some points across well but I know what I mean lol

[arcticgun 4,548]

the very fact we are suspicious of those we freely elect too lead and protect us in the first instance really shows that the wrong people are in charge , so many definitive facts and figures fit so snuggly into so many theories , couple this with the fact that we know we are lied to by our leaders on every levels all the time, ffs we even had president of the USA stand and lie too the entire nation over a pretty trivial matter and have to recant said lies, we have seen presidents close business associates go onto be our worst nightmares, we have waged wars on countries that we helped too oust the last leaderships and armed too the teeth in the process, gone too war based on a loose tissue of lies, loaned countless millions of tax payers future pension monies and the countries savings too risky international finance deals, based on the results of ongoing conflicts, etc etc

 

we also know that the urber rich and by that I mean a minute percentage of the population own the majority of the wealth and have over the decades manipulated the worlds warring factions for their own gains, often funding both ends of said wars, using massive financial clout too install compliant leaders all over the globe, media, money, military clout whatever it takes, too control the financial markets, we here of all the top level peado scandals etc so its easy too see how the government types are manipulated via blackmail or money additional power very easy for them who have no moral issues as long as it gets them what they desire, truth is some people will stop at nothing too get what they want, some people are easily corrupted,

 

Think them towers going down suited a lot of people for a lot of reasons, changed the entire way we live

Edited May 7, 2017 by arcticgun

[Nik_B 3,790]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

 

Joseph Goebbels

[secretagentmole 1,701]

The war on Libya another one and absolutely nothing to do with so called protests. Syria was almost exactly the same template. Sidney Blumenthal/Hillary Clinton correspondence below. Read the two plans of Sarkozy at the bottom.

 

 

Just one slight problem, just one, one that really proves that is bullshite!

The French Franc ceased to exist in 2002, so toppling Gadaffi because he wanted to use a currency you did not use makes as much sense as providing mountain bikes for Haddock!

[Nik_B 3,790]

It's the Central African CFA franc not the French Franc and I'm quite sure these leaks are very real

[MickC 1,825]

The Truth Movement about the 911 caper fronted by a Professor who has wrote a few books on the subject is causing the powers that be problems.Loads of Architects,Engineers,Fireman etc speaking out now. A good few anomalies are still aching to be asked like Why did tower 3 collapse untouched and why did the CNN reporter announce its collapse on tv when it was clearly still standing.There is other stuff like the phonecalls which even to this day could not be made from the elevation the plane was allegedy flying at,this was funnily enough missing from the inquest. A lot of questions still unanswered and nobody in office prepared to answer them.

Edited May 7, 2017 by MickC

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

They wasnt being wicked god ,that was their idea of fun .Sex pistols .