David.evans 5,323 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I've done a bit of explosive demolition over the past 20 odd years ,and I'm not putting my cv up on hear ! But to do a controlled demolition in a situation like the towers , where if you have watched other videos , most building are set to fall straight down in a controlled manor , this involves the drilling of columns , beams ect , and structural steel , There is IMO no way that this could have been undertaken in complete secrecy , because or the scale of the operation It would have took an absolute life time for this to be accomplished Unless of course there is a method of controlled demolition ( as in strate down) that's so top secret no body knows about it ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) So here's the obvious problem with the controlled explosion 'theory'. You're a evil genius in the Bush administration with the strategic goal of invading a list of Middle Eastern states and decide the best way to do that is with a false flag operation. I can buy all that right, but here's my problem.... What's being suggested is that the buildings were rigged and demolished. Yet your strategic goal isn't to demolish the buildings, it's to create national outrage and the will to fight a series of wars. So why the f**k would you choose such a tactically risky way of achieving that? Why would you risk leaving what would be a huge trail of crumbs? What's the alternative........ well why not genuinely give some radicals the opportunity to actually hijack planes and fly them into the buildings? Set up a patsy from a long list. Far more easily covered up and achieves exactly the same goal! The building didn't have to fall, it wasn't necessary and would have been very risky to carry out. It makes no sense. Maybe the contents of the building was part of the reason it went down , lot of financial data held there I think it was likely a mix of pre layed charges likely done over months and the 'terrorists' where simply 'allowed' to carry out the attack, came at just the right time massive worldwide recession, people starting too turn on the banks and financial institutions and the governments who change the laws to suit and protect the bankers etc, think war suited many objectives, keeps people from moaning about taxes, terror and war always takes the eye off higher taxes and spending, think certain parties had a lot of vested interests iin the middle east and laying th blame squarely their suited americans and Saudis very well Edited May 4, 2017 by arcticgun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,707 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I just can't get my head around why they BOTH fell? I know a plane hit them. But in proportion to the size of the buildings it wasn't a big area? And if they were weakened why did they fall in on themselves rather than topple over? And why did the 3rd building collapse of its own accord? So many unanswered questions IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,707 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 A plane never hit the Pentagon, common knowledge that one isn't it? Your talking about what is essentially a aluminium tube being crashed into a reinforced building at 700 miles per hour I'm not surprised that they didn't find a plane lol.. They did recovery some landing gear about the only thing strong enough to survive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinytiger 840 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'd say thousands of people. Can you imagine how long it would take to rig up a demolition job like that? It takes months to do it in to empty building, let alone having to do it covertly. Not to mention the fact you still have to make 2-4 commercial Airliners hit the targets! To fit in with the official cover up. Oh, unless they were cruise missiles with their well known hologram mode activated. LOL or they infiltrated/steered them-one integral member of the cell was probably mossad/c.i.a/mi5 -then again might just have been an elabourate insurance job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Tbh you can twist a conspiracy out of anything if you have the mind to.That and one hell of a vivid imagination lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect. & then basically disintegrated? Not even partial collapse of buildings designed to withstand plane crashes? All three buildings within hours turned to rubble in their own footprint. The only three buildings in the history of steel structure high rises to fall in such a way, on the same day & so fcuking quickly!! .....Ok fine, why would you question that?? Haha.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Tbh you can twist a conspiracy out of anything if you have the mind to.That and one hell of a vivid imagination lol That's very true by the way.....;-) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,707 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect.& then basically disintegrated? Not even partial collapse of buildings designed to withstand plane crashes? All three buildings within hours turned to rubble in their own footprint. The only three buildings in the history of steel structure high rises to fall in such a way, on the same day & so fcuking quickly!!.....Ok fine, why would you question that?? Haha.... The energy and forces involved are immense once the integrity of the structure was damaged it might aswell have been a house of cards... What do you think the sections above where the planes hit weighed? All that weight slamming down it was inevitable it collapsed the way it did gravity took over. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect.& then basically disintegrated? Not even partial collapse of buildings designed to withstand plane crashes? All three buildings within hours turned to rubble in their own footprint. The only three buildings in the history of steel structure high rises to fall in such a way, on the same day & so fcuking quickly!!.....Ok fine, why would you question that?? Haha.... The energy and forces involved are immense once the integrity of the structure was damaged it might aswell have been a house of cards... What do you think the sections above where the planes hit weighed? All that weight slamming down it was inevitable it collapsed the way it did gravity took over. I can kind of accept things like that mate, but these buildings had an internal core of steel & an outer skeletal structure, for those two buildings to respond in exactly the same way from those impacts within an hour(?) of each other, with exactly the same results, total destruction?? Why did building 7 respond in exactly the same way? No direct hit & no major inferno? Why?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,707 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect. & then basically disintegrated? Not even partial collapse of buildings designed to withstand plane crashes? All three buildings within hours turned to rubble in their own footprint. The only three buildings in the history of steel structure high rises to fall in such a way, on the same day & so fcuking quickly!!.....Ok fine, why would you question that?? Haha.... The energy and forces involved are immense once the integrity of the structure was damaged it might aswell have been a house of cards... What do you think the sections above where the planes hit weighed? All that weight slamming down it was inevitable it collapsed the way it did gravity took over.I can kind of accept things like that mate, but these buildings had an internal core of steel & an outer skeletal structure, for those two buildings to respond in exactly the same way from those impacts within an hour(?) of each other, with exactly the same results, total destruction?? Why did building 7 respond in exactly the same way? No direct hit & no major inferno? Why?? Believe me I'm a stoner and love a good conspiracy theory lol but the Twin Towers being a demolition job is a step to far even for me it's just to messy there would have to be 100s involved you just couldn't keep a lid on it imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the subject Nik? I was always brought up to be open minded and have a scientific approach to things so it doesn't bother me at all to test theories about anything. Unfortunately we live in a world of politicised science, global warming being the perfect example where anyone who doubts something has to be crazy, a 'denier' or a tin foil hat wearing loon. 9/11 falls under this banner and so do a couple of other things one of which cannot even be mentioned because of the hysteria it causes. Having said that the guys who wrote this report are actual scientists with a lot of experience, they've approached the problem scientifically and they shouldn't be smeared for doing so which they have been. There are also pilots who have attempted to fly the routes made by the hijackers and the Pentagon attack was one they found the most improbable as they tested it in a simulator and couldn't replicate the attack pattern. I've always thought the way those three towers fell down looked weird, generally I leave it at that because if you are interested in debunking the mainstream media which does actually lie a lot it only hurts your cause. The thing I find most strange is how people react to anyone who questions the narrative, often it is as if they have some personal connection to the tragedy yet most don't. Some people can actually get quite angry if you do. I attempted to have a conversation with someone about climate change recently, as I do have a lot of understanding of geological climate change I believe the scientific methods being used to prove it are misleading & politicians are stating as fact something which is only a theory very dishonest. The guy flipped his sh*t and got pretty angry...why?? I've always thought the way those three towers fell down looked weird but I leave it at that, if you are interested in debunking the mainstream media lies which are frequent it tends to hurts your cause....tin foil hattery apparently! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If any of you have seen a steel framed building that's been in a fire you soon understand how the building's collapsed in the way they did... Once the steel was week in the section the plane hit with the impact and the heat all that weight above was only ever going to go down causing a domino effect.& then basically disintegrated? Not even partial collapse of buildings designed to withstand plane crashes? All three buildings within hours turned to rubble in their own footprint. The only three buildings in the history of steel structure high rises to fall in such a way, on the same day & so fcuking quickly!!.....Ok fine, why would you question that?? Haha.... The energy and forces involved are immense once the integrity of the structure was damaged it might aswell have been a house of cards... What do you think the sections above where the planes hit weighed? All that weight slamming down it was inevitable it collapsed the way it did gravity took over.I can kind of accept things like that mate, but these buildings had an internal core of steel & an outer skeletal structure, for those two buildings to respond in exactly the same way from those impacts within an hour(?) of each other, with exactly the same results, total destruction?? Why did building 7 respond in exactly the same way? No direct hit & no major inferno? Why?? Believe me I'm a stoner and love a good conspiracy theory lol but the Twin Towers being a demolition job is a step to far even for me it's just to messy there would have to be 100s involved you just couldn't keep a lid on it imo I keep trying to tell myself the same thing...haha. There just doesn't seem to be a credible reason for building 7 to come down like that, which incidentally seems to have been ignored historically? Along with all questions..... I'll always question it, I can never accept the official line, surely history has taught us to keep questioning such huge events? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the subject Nik? I was always brought up to be open minded and have a scientific approach to things so it doesn't bother me at all to test theories about anything. Unfortunately we live in a world of politicised science, global warming being the perfect example where anyone who doubts something has to be crazy, a 'denier' or a tin foil hat wearing loon. 9/11 falls under this banner and so do a couple of other things one of which cannot even be mentioned because of the hysteria it causes. Having said that the guys who wrote this report are actual scientists with a lot of experience, they've approached the problem scientifically and they shouldn't be smeared for doing so which they have been. There are also pilots who have attempted to fly the routes made by the hijackers and the Pentagon attack was one they found the most improbable as they tested it in a simulator and couldn't replicate the attack pattern. I've always thought the way those three towers fell down looked weird, generally I leave it at that because if you are interested in debunking the mainstream media which does actually lie a lot it only hurts your cause. The thing I find most strange is how people react to anyone who questions the narrative, often it is as if they have some personal connection to the tragedy yet most don't. Some people can actually get quite angry if you do. I attempted to have a conversation with someone about climate change recently, as I do have a lot of understanding of geological climate change I believe the scientific methods being used to prove it are misleading & politicians are stating as fact something which is only a theory very dishonest. The guy flipped his sh*t and got pretty angry...why?? I've always thought the way those three towers fell down looked weird but I leave it at that, if you are interested in debunking the mainstream media lies which are frequent it tends to hurts your cause....tin foil hattery apparently! The thing you have to remind yourself about 9/11 is absolutely no other evidence will ever be officially accepted that is contrary to the official version of events, never! Everything else is just pissing in the wind really....:-) Edited May 4, 2017 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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