Poverty

[Blackbriar 8,569]

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

 

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

 

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

 

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

 

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

[arcticgun 4,548]

at the end of the day its about personal accountability, its all put out their and up for grabs and the price is 'high' but people know that when they sign up for stuff, be it a loan for a holiday, new TV, couch, motor or mortgage, then once that done, then comes the need for yet more loans, each at higher stake than the last, that markets reached saturation point, so they change a few laws and unleash a whole range of sub prime credit too the truly hopeless, full well knowing they are likely to default, sickening that its been allowed to happen , and people just mindlessly lap it all up, as long as they keep on getting what they want or are told they want or need,

[WILF 47,592]

 

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

I dont think the "Rich" man is to blame nor should he be penalised for doing well.......however I do think it's been made almost impossible for the ordinary bloke to climb out of the hole and so he consenquently bares the brunt of the shit.

He can't afford to move to the nice area or change his situation......he is simply working and waiting to die........and that my friends is a disgusting state of affairs.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

I dont think the "Rich" man is to blame nor should he be penalised for doing well.......however I do think it's been made almost impossible for the ordinary bloke to climb out of the hole and so he consenquently bares the brunt of the shit.

He can't afford to move to the nice area or change his situation......he is simply working and waiting to die........and that my friends is a disgusting state of affairs.

Surely instances like the banking crisis & what Lehman brothers did constitutes as the 'rich' causing some of that burden?

[Accip74 7,112]

 

If I want something I save up for it, if I cant save enough I dont fukcing get it, is that such an alien concept, if more people, working and on benifits lived within their means there wouldnt be so much so called poverty

Define within their means?

Not arguing but if you had to save up to buy it, no one I know could outright own anything

The only lad in my circle flourishing has a grow in the loft

Speaks volumes really

It's easy to get self righteous about ordinary folk borrowing money, whilst forgetting most of us have mortgages & half the worlds run on borrowed money! Haha....

[scothunter 12,609]

I voted tory yesterday and will again in the general election. But im not a f***ing tory and not even close to the league they are, and doubt anyone here is either.

its strictly a tactical vote and pretty much the rest of the partys are abysmal.

[Accip74 7,112]

I voted tory yesterday and will again in the general election. But im not a f***ing tory and not even close to the league they are, and doubt anyone here is either.

its strictly a tactical vote and pretty much the rest of the partys are abysmal.

What did you say the other day? It made me laugh......"Chairman May"

 

...but theres not many better options unfortunately

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

 

 

If I want something I save up for it, if I cant save enough I dont fukcing get it, is that such an alien concept, if more people, working and on benifits lived within their means there wouldnt be so much so called poverty

Define within their means?

Not arguing but if you had to save up to buy it, no one I know could outright own anything

The only lad in my circle flourishing has a grow in the loft

Speaks volumes really

It's easy to get self righteous about ordinary folk borrowing money, whilst forgetting most of us have mortgages & half the worlds run on borrowed money! Haha....

 

 

Not getting self righteous mate, I just happen to believe that borrowing money for things we dont need is irresponsible, lets say I have a 50 inch TV and I fancy a 60 inch, I wouldnt dream of borrowing money to buy the new 1 I'd save until I could purchase it, if my personal finances didnt stretch to it I'd be going without a new TV

[Born Hunter 17,809]

 

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

 

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

 

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

 

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

 

 

And who exactly is blaming the 'poor' for any of that lot? It's always just another excuse to justify actually stealing another mans money because he's got more than you. Like I said, no bugger blames the poor for a damn thing, it's always the rich's fault. We're all talking about credit and the only folks being blamed are the lenders, like they are forcing debt on folks.

 

"It's terrible that loan companies are charging 1200% APR! It should be illegal!"................. Eh! No, what's terrible is that people are stupid enough to take such an offer. If I threw myself off a bridge, it ain't the builders fault for not putting a sign up saying, "don't jump!".

 

Yeah the rich get the pleasure, they're rich!

 

Like I said, this is straight out of the socialist Labour bible. Nobody wants to offer the little man the opportunity to be free anymore because the little man doesn't want it or the responsibility that comes with it. And THAT, that right there sickens ME!

Edited May 5, 2017 by Born Hunter

[WILF 47,592]

 

 

 

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

I dont think the "Rich" man is to blame nor should he be penalised for doing well.......however I do think it's been made almost impossible for the ordinary bloke to climb out of the hole and so he consenquently bares the brunt of the shit.

He can't afford to move to the nice area or change his situation......he is simply working and waiting to die........and that my friends is a disgusting state of affairs.

Surely instances like the banking crisis & what Lehman brothers did constitutes as the 'rich' causing some of that burden?

They are simply bankers who happen to be rich because they got in on a scheme with the politicians.

I think it's dangerous when we use this term "the rich".......who are they?.......what constitutes rich ?

It allows politicians to penalise people even more and keep them in the hole.......I wouldn't class a man with £2 million quid as rich in the modern world.......I mean, it's 2 million more than I have got but if I let the government f**k him then they have the excuse to f**k me.

That's my logic anyway.

[WILF 47,592]

 

 

If I want something I save up for it, if I cant save enough I dont fukcing get it, is that such an alien concept, if more people, working and on benifits lived within their means there wouldnt be so much so called poverty

Define within their means?

Not arguing but if you had to save up to buy it, no one I know could outright own anything

The only lad in my circle flourishing has a grow in the loft

Speaks volumes really

It's easy to get self righteous about ordinary folk borrowing money, whilst forgetting most of us have mortgages & half the worlds run on borrowed money! Haha....

I agree mate, the UK debt is rising at £5000 A SECOND just on the interest and we debate the morality of a bloke buying a TV !!

Funny old world.......

[scothunter 12,609]

Its true mate. One party state. The tories are not even bothering to engage with debate or engage with the public. Its a one horse race.

Regardless of whether its a hard brexit or not you can be rest assured they wont suffer there lifestyle wont change.

 

Banging on about min wage and a living wage. Surely everone should have a wage they can get by on.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

If I want something I save up for it, if I cant save enough I dont fukcing get it, is that such an alien concept, if more people, working and on benifits lived within their means there wouldnt be so much so called poverty

 

Define within their means?

Not arguing but if you had to save up to buy it, no one I know could outright own anything

The only lad in my circle flourishing has a grow in the loft

Speaks volumes really

It's easy to get self righteous about ordinary folk borrowing money, whilst forgetting most of us have mortgages & half the worlds run on borrowed money! Haha....

Not getting self righteous mate, I just happen to believe that borrowing money for things we dont need is irresponsible, lets say I have a 50 inch TV and I fancy a 60 inch, I wouldnt dream of borrowing money to buy the new 1 I'd save until I could purchase it, if my personal finances didnt stretch to it I'd be going without a new TV

I'm not picking you out mate & I agree with what you say, I'm guilty of being irresponsible in the past, but I only had to worry about myself......

 

.....but take a struggling family that hasn't had a holiday in ten years, desperate to give the kids a break. They do it on credit & then the old man gets laid off blah blah blah......It's happens, they're not necessarily reckless people, just took a chance for a bit of happiness.

We all take a chance on a mortgage for 10s of thousands & then we can quite easily find our selves out of work, are we irresponsible for taking that mortgage? Should we have just saved £250,000? By doing an extra shift at the cafe? Haha..(Eastenders joke)

Edited May 5, 2017 by Accip74

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

 

 

Throughout our history

The story's been the same.It's the rich that get the pleasure -

And the poor that get the blame !

Not from what I read constantly on this site and frankly coming out of every 'working man's' mouth. Haven't you heard? Apparently it's not the poor hard done by working man's fault for taking a loan that he can't manage, it's the lender's fault! See that's how society works now, we're not responsible for our own actions, it's every one else's fault. Makes perfect sense to me!

 

Why do the British hate freedom and responsibility so much?

 

I can see Labour having a landslide. It's straight out of their mantra.

So, were not having our local services cut, due to "austerity", bought about by the banking collapse ?

So, several disabled people haven't had to undergo re-assessment, to see if they're as disabled today as they were yesterday ?

So, the poorest families aren't having their working benefits cut, while the richest have had tax breaks ? I could go on.....but the rich DO get the pleasure, and the poor DO get the blame !

We hear all the time how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - does anyone NOT actually believe that ? For goodness sake, we now have a growing number of people who have to work for their poverty !

Austerity, the deficit, balancing the books - call it what you like, but who carries the biggest burden ?

I dont think the "Rich" man is to blame nor should he be penalised for doing well.......however I do think it's been made almost impossible for the ordinary bloke to climb out of the hole and so he consenquently bares the brunt of the shit.

He can't afford to move to the nice area or change his situation......he is simply working and waiting to die........and that my friends is a disgusting state of affairs.

Surely instances like the banking crisis & what Lehman brothers did constitutes as the 'rich' causing some of that burden?

They are simply bankers who happen to be rich because they got in on a scheme with the politicians.

I think it's dangerous when we use this term "the rich".......who are they?.......what constitutes rich ?

It allows politicians to penalise people even more and keep them in the hole.......I wouldn't class a man with £2 million quid as rich in the modern world.......I mean, it's 2 million more than I have got but if I let the government f**k him then they have the excuse to f**k me.

That's my logic anyway.

Yeh I hate using the term 'rich' it's too easy, but as it was being chucked about! Haha...... Whatever rich means, we are not talking about ordinary folk taking those massive chances that can burden the rest of us.

[WILF 47,592]

Outstanding !