Collie Crosses To Clever Or Too Slow

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

 

 

You do get alot of other crosses including ones with saluki and bull in that end up quitting on rabbits.

No one knows fully what goes on in dogs head.

I think if u kept slipping collie types on hedge rabbits then they probably would f**k it off before another cross...but that's missing the point completely...

No point slipping your dog if u don't think it will catch it.. Wasting everyone's time.

That being said my hairy collie x, slip him on a hedgerow figitey type rabbit, the ones that are undecided whether to go in or not...and 9-10 he would turn the fuckers off the hedge and nab them.

Iv now worked out, I think, I prefer border collie to beardy x...

Far less sensitive, more responsive and a harder nature...thats me personally.

Others say beardy are the tougher dog.

 

Maybe if u were after fox time after time

 

 

But I'm not so will never fins out lol.

why have a dog with the mental ability of a collie and keep it on a slip? To me that would be like owning Einstein and then telling him how to write the theory of relativity.

because it's my dog and il do what I want with it when lamping. I just think it's better personally.

The dogs with collie in iv had, if for example I was oit for rabbits and something else popped up, in awkward place I wouldn't be able to stop em.

[straight2hand 303]

 

 

I would have to wonder if the picking of runs is down to the dog or the person behind the dog...Im not sure as it could be either or a bit of both. Perhaps they get bored but then aain collie does like to have its place in the world, it enjoys the tasks that it is set.

[bird 9,861]

 

 

 

I would have to wonder if the picking of runs is down to the dog or the person behind the dog...Im not sure as it could be either or a bit of both. Perhaps they get bored but then aain collie does like to have its place in the world, it enjoys the tasks that it is set.

 

in most cases mate its the dog , ok if your doing long hard slips , and it had fair few runs , suppose any type x will get pissed off in the end with it, and think feck it. But a thinking type dog like a dog with 1/2 or more collie in its genes , it will think about it quicker . lol And after all really , why do you need a dog with the brain of a collie, feck me its only catching few poxy rabbits , and type x can pick up lamping, and one thing collie xs are very good at is ferriting marking berries etc , just using there nose , well take any type x from a pup out mooching they soon learn to use there . Ihad 1/4 pit 3/4 grey dog in the 80s , i used him for dog'in birds for a keeper i knew back then , when he was doing that he started to mark rabbits cover as well, so it not just colliexs that are good at it . But must admit watching both my 1xs , a collie x grey and a gsd x grey , marking rabbits in cover , is brill , had great mark in some cover month ago , Buck knocked a fox out of cover , he nearly knocked me out getting past me, to get at it , the big mad fecker lol , bloody woke me up

[morton 5,368]

Wouldn't recommend having one just for lamping rabbits I meant

What do you base that upon pray tell?

[morton 5,368]

I have found the herding composites to be the most intelligent and primitive of canines,...they definitely know when it is on,..and when it isn't....

 

Lurcher enthusiasts who need a dog with a do or die attitude,...might do well to consider another type of hybrid running dog ...

 

I made my choice, 50 years ago and although I have left the flock on numerous ocassions,...I always return....

Once a Collie bred mongrel captivates your soul they have an habit of making 50 years pass by far to quickly.If i knew now what a decent collie cur taught me back in the day then its only my own ego and ignorance that made me stray from the path,im not to far behind you Phil.

[morton 5,368]

Some people just have a personality which doesn't suit collie x lurchers. If you can unravel their mental workings and understand what makes them tick you will not get a better all round hunting dog. If you need to have it explained to you then you are never going to own a good collie cross

Proper post,well said.

[beast 1,884]

what do people mean when they say a dog picks its runs? if you mean a dog will sometimes chase and other times not, or a dog will run well early on but fade later in the night, or a dog that is unreliable or something along those lines, then this could be any dog not just a collie cross

 

but if you mean a dog which will run hard at rabbits in the open but just watch those which are siting in the burrow mouth, or a dog which will simply calmly stalk a rabbit 5 feet out from the hedge instead of plunging into the cover 10 seconds after the rabbit has gone, then i dont have to much problem with that. whats the point of having a clever dog if you dont let it use its brain?

[Shaddy93 840]

From my experience of collie greyhounds picking their runs then by that I mean iv seen a well established collie greyhound that excell d on rabbits run a rabbit and make short work of it, 10 minutes later she would run another rabbit in the same sort of style and all of a sudden just stop in her tracks and watch it run away even if it was a long way from any sort of cover and when she was on top of things, I seen this same bitch do this more than once, a lot of the time she would have a good night when she wouldn't do it at all and she would go home with between 10 to 20 rabbits but the odd accession she would do this for no apparent reason. Iv seen them same trait with more 4 different collie greyhounds all be it they were all directly out of mr hancocks kennels himself, but before all the haters start iv also seen a hancocks bred bitch make saluki greyhounds look like clowns in the daytime, that bitch was still making short work of hares on the lamp at 8 years old, all the collie greyhounds iv seen have been tooth shy too, but i do know good honest dog men that don't keep bad dogs tell tails of single handed collie greyhounds, and then again iv seen them refuse to pull hares before the ban obviously. If you want a dog for rabbits a collie greyhound isn't a bad choice in my opinion but it's also a risk, just like any pup i surpose, if I was to have one I'd rather one out of worker to worker that's bred for own use rather than out of hancocks kennels

[sowhat 1,572]

 

This girl had alot of early pase, excellent lamper taking rabbit & hare on the lamp but would'nt entertain a fox, took loads of day time rabbits & very few day time hares, what few hares she did catch was with in 500 yrs ish. Here sire was Eddy Jones Celt x another collie x

[bird 9,861]

 

This girl had alot of early pase, excellent lamper taking rabbit & hare on the lamp but would'nt entertain a fox, took loads of day time rabbits & very few day time hares, what few hares she did catch was with in 500 yrs ish. Here sire was Eddy Jones Celt x another collie x

nice pic that , how was she bred then, was she a whippet or a greyhound lurcher x lurcher , if so the collie be watered down , celt was a 1/2 x , ive always said a 1/4 plenty of collie in a mix , it when you go more you can get the manic /sensitive / temp takes over

[Penda 3,341]

Pal of mine had a collie grey back to a whippet grey she was only around 22tts she was quick dog but very clever aswell little power house of a dog he only ever used her on rabbits she killed the odd hate on the beam retrieved like a spaniel he had loads of sport with her ideal little bitch for mopping up them bunnies in small fields

[sowhat 1,572]

 

 

This girl had alot of early pase, excellent lamper taking rabbit & hare on the lamp but would'nt entertain a fox, took loads of day time rabbits & very few day time hares, what few hares she did catch was with in 500 yrs ish. Here sire was Eddy Jones Celt x another collie x

nice pic that , how was she bred then, was she a whippet or a greyhound lurcher x lurcher , if so the collie be watered down , celt was a 1/2 x , ive always said a 1/4 plenty of collie in a mix , it when you go more you can get the manic /sensitive / temp takes over

 

Hi bird, I bought her at 10 months old off a lad from Nottingham & he got her by swapping a stuffed goshawk & £40, I gave him £25 the best ever buy in my life, she'd been put out of a car window at 9 months old onto a hare on the fen's & coss she jacked on it he decided it wasn't for him after 6 months of bringing her on she show all the signs of being a goodun I used to show & race her through the summer months & work her the rest of the time. Phil Lloyd gave her champion of champion's at the UK lurcher finals in 1986 & won loads of racing in the under 23" class. I was told that her breeding was out of Eddy Jones Celt to another collie x, the woman that breed this litter was abit of a alky from Tamworth area, may be Breeze on here may have heard about this woman? what a buy, what a dog

[shaaark 10,693]

 

 

This girl had alot of early pase, excellent lamper taking rabbit & hare on the lamp but would'nt entertain a fox, took loads of day time rabbits & very few day time hares, what few hares she did catch was with in 500 yrs ish. Here sire was Eddy Jones Celt x another collie x

nice pic that , how was she bred then, was she a whippet or a greyhound lurcher x lurcher , if so the collie be watered down , celt was a 1/2 x , ive always said a 1/4 plenty of collie in a mix , it when you go more you can get the manic /sensitive / temp takes over

 

Thought celt was 3/4 bred