dave88 1,565 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 You say the information king is putting up is all guesswork yet you'll choose believe a 2000 year old book of fairy tales? I respect the fact that you always stand your ground and stick up for what you believe in but it's just plain ignoranceNo its not pal, have a read for yourself, im usuing common sense, im say the earths young, an theres plenty to back it up. Your not understanding what im say go read up how they date the rocks, you see yourself. Apparently rocks can be dated using radiometric dating 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Coal is a black or brownish-black sedimentary rock that can be burned for fuel and used to generate electricity. It is composed mostly of carbon and hydrocarbons, which contain energy that can be released through combustion (burning). Coal is the largest source of energy for generating electricity in the world, and the most abundant fossil fuel in the United States. Fossil fuels are formed from the remains of ancient organisms. Because coal takes millions of years to develop and there is a limited amount of it, it is a nonrenewable resource. The conditions that would eventually create coal began to develop about 300 million years ago, during the Carboniferous period. During this time, the Earth was covered in wide, shallow seas and dense forests. The seas occasionally flooded the forested areas, trapping plants and algae at the bottom of a swampy wetland. Over time, the plants (mostly mosses) and algae were buried and compressed under the weight of overlying mud and vegetation. As the plant debris sifted deeper under Earths surface, it encountered increased temperatures and higher pressure. Mud and acidic water prevented the plant matter from coming into contact with oxygen. Due to this, the plant matter decomposed at a very slow rate and retained most of its carbon (source of energy). These areas of buried plant matter are called peat bogs. Peat bogs store massive amounts of carbon many meters underground. Peat itself can be burned for fuel, and is a major source of heat energy in countries such as Scotland, Ireland, and Russia. Under the right conditions, peat transforms into coal through a process called carbonization. Carbonization takes place under incredible heat and pressure. About 3 meters (10 feet) of layered vegetation eventually compresses into a third of a meter (1 foot) of coal! Coal exists in underground formations called coal seams or coal beds. A coal seam can be as thick as 30 meters (90 feet) and stretch 1,500 kilometers (920 miles). Coal seams exist on every continent. The largest coal reserves are in the United States, Russia, China, Australia, and India. In the United States, coal is mined in 25 states and three major regions. In the Western Coal Region, Wyoming is the top producerabout 40% of the coal mined in the country is extracted in the state. More than one-third of the nations coal comes from the Appalachian Coal Region, which includes West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. Coal extracted from Texas in the Interior Coal Region supplies mostly local markets. Types of Coal Coal is very different from mineral rocks, which are made of inorganic material. Coal is made of fragile plant matter, and undergoes many changes before it becomes the familiar black and shiny substance burned as fuel. Coal goes through different phases of carbonization over millions of years, and can be found at all stages of development in different parts of the world. Coal is ranked according to how much it has changed over time. Hilt's Law states that the deeper the coal seam, the higher its rank. At deeper depths, the material encounters greater temperatures and pressure, and more plant debris is transformed into carbon. Were did you copy an paste that from hehe.Actually coal can be formed relativley quickly mate. How quickly can plant matter be turned into coal would you say Francie. Few lab experiments have been done in recent years an coal was formed in days mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 You say the information king is putting up is all guesswork yet you'll choose believe a 2000 year old book of fairy tales? I respect the fact that you always stand your ground and stick up for what you believe in but it's just plain ignoranceNo its not pal, have a read for yourself, im usuing common sense, im say the earths young, an theres plenty to back it up. Your not understanding what im say go read up how they date the rocks, you see yourself. Apparently rocks can be dated using radiometric dating Not carbon dating tho, sure the rocks are not a living organism? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Coal is a black or brownish-black sedimentary rock that can be burned for fuel and used to generate electricity. It is composed mostly of carbon and hydrocarbons, which contain energy that can be released through combustion (burning). Coal is the largest source of energy for generating electricity in the world, and the most abundant fossil fuel in the United States. Fossil fuels are formed from the remains of ancient organisms. Because coal takes millions of years to develop and there is a limited amount of it, it is a nonrenewable resource. The conditions that would eventually create coal began to develop about 300 million years ago, during the Carboniferous period. During this time, the Earth was covered in wide, shallow seas and dense forests. The seas occasionally flooded the forested areas, trapping plants and algae at the bottom of a swampy wetland. Over time, the plants (mostly mosses) and algae were buried and compressed under the weight of overlying mud and vegetation. As the plant debris sifted deeper under Earths surface, it encountered increased temperatures and higher pressure. Mud and acidic water prevented the plant matter from coming into contact with oxygen. Due to this, the plant matter decomposed at a very slow rate and retained most of its carbon (source of energy). These areas of buried plant matter are called peat bogs. Peat bogs store massive amounts of carbon many meters underground. Peat itself can be burned for fuel, and is a major source of heat energy in countries such as Scotland, Ireland, and Russia. Under the right conditions, peat transforms into coal through a process called carbonization. Carbonization takes place under incredible heat and pressure. About 3 meters (10 feet) of layered vegetation eventually compresses into a third of a meter (1 foot) of coal! Coal exists in underground formations called coal seams or coal beds. A coal seam can be as thick as 30 meters (90 feet) and stretch 1,500 kilometers (920 miles). Coal seams exist on every continent. The largest coal reserves are in the United States, Russia, China, Australia, and India. In the United States, coal is mined in 25 states and three major regions. In the Western Coal Region, Wyoming is the top producerabout 40% of the coal mined in the country is extracted in the state. More than one-third of the nations coal comes from the Appalachian Coal Region, which includes West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. Coal extracted from Texas in the Interior Coal Region supplies mostly local markets. Types of Coal Coal is very different from mineral rocks, which are made of inorganic material. Coal is made of fragile plant matter, and undergoes many changes before it becomes the familiar black and shiny substance burned as fuel. Coal goes through different phases of carbonization over millions of years, and can be found at all stages of development in different parts of the world. Coal is ranked according to how much it has changed over time. Hilt's Law states that the deeper the coal seam, the higher its rank. At deeper depths, the material encounters greater temperatures and pressure, and more plant debris is transformed into carbon. Were did you copy an paste that from hehe.Actually coal can be formed relativley quickly mate. How quickly can plant matter be turned into coal would you say Francie. Few lab experiments have been done in recent years an coal was formed in days mate. Can you put links up for these labs work please Francie. How can they turn plant matter into a solid object coal. In days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Coal is a black or brownish-black sedimentary rock that can be burned for fuel and used to generate electricity. It is composed mostly of carbon and hydrocarbons, which contain energy that can be released through combustion (burning). Coal is the largest source of energy for generating electricity in the world, and the most abundant fossil fuel in the United States. Fossil fuels are formed from the remains of ancient organisms. Because coal takes millions of years to develop and there is a limited amount of it, it is a nonrenewable resource. The conditions that would eventually create coal began to develop about 300 million years ago, during the Carboniferous period. During this time, the Earth was covered in wide, shallow seas and dense forests. The seas occasionally flooded the forested areas, trapping plants and algae at the bottom of a swampy wetland. Over time, the plants (mostly mosses) and algae were buried and compressed under the weight of overlying mud and vegetation. As the plant debris sifted deeper under Earths surface, it encountered increased temperatures and higher pressure. Mud and acidic water prevented the plant matter from coming into contact with oxygen. Due to this, the plant matter decomposed at a very slow rate and retained most of its carbon (source of energy). These areas of buried plant matter are called peat bogs. Peat bogs store massive amounts of carbon many meters underground. Peat itself can be burned for fuel, and is a major source of heat energy in countries such as Scotland, Ireland, and Russia. Under the right conditions, peat transforms into coal through a process called carbonization. Carbonization takes place under incredible heat and pressure. About 3 meters (10 feet) of layered vegetation eventually compresses into a third of a meter (1 foot) of coal! Coal exists in underground formations called coal seams or coal beds. A coal seam can be as thick as 30 meters (90 feet) and stretch 1,500 kilometers (920 miles). Coal seams exist on every continent. The largest coal reserves are in the United States, Russia, China, Australia, and India. In the United States, coal is mined in 25 states and three major regions. In the Western Coal Region, Wyoming is the top producerabout 40% of the coal mined in the country is extracted in the state. More than one-third of the nations coal comes from the Appalachian Coal Region, which includes West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. Coal extracted from Texas in the Interior Coal Region supplies mostly local markets. Types of Coal Coal is very different from mineral rocks, which are made of inorganic material. Coal is made of fragile plant matter, and undergoes many changes before it becomes the familiar black and shiny substance burned as fuel. Coal goes through different phases of carbonization over millions of years, and can be found at all stages of development in different parts of the world. Coal is ranked according to how much it has changed over time. Hilt's Law states that the deeper the coal seam, the higher its rank. At deeper depths, the material encounters greater temperatures and pressure, and more plant debris is transformed into carbon. Were did you copy an paste that from hehe.Actually coal can be formed relativley quickly mate. How quickly can plant matter be turned into coal would you say Francie.Few lab experiments have been done in recent years an coal was formed in days mate.Can you put links up for these labs work please Francie. How can they turn plant matter into a solid object coal. In days. Il have a look now mate, im not sure tbh, think its to do with heat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Are the British antarctic survey lying to us when they say this Francie. Ice cores are cylinders of ice drilled out of an ice sheet or glacier. Most ice core records come from Antarctica and Greenland, and the longest ice cores extend to 3km in depth. The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment. Crucially, the ice encloses small bubbles of air that contain a sample of the atmosphere – from these it is possible to measure directly the past concentration of gases (including carbon dioxide and methane) in the atmosphere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 You say the information king is putting up is all guesswork yet you'll choose believe a 2000 year old book of fairy tales? I respect the fact that you always stand your ground and stick up for what you believe in but it's just plain ignoranceNo its not pal, have a read for yourself, im usuing common sense, im say the earths young, an theres plenty to back it up. Your not understanding what im say go read up how they date the rocks, you see yourself. Apparently rocks can be dated using radiometric dating Not carbon dating tho, sure the rocks are not a living organism?No not carbon dating because as you say they're not living but the CAN be dated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,806 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 You say the information king is putting up is all guesswork yet you'll choose believe a 2000 year old book of fairy tales? I respect the fact that you always stand your ground and stick up for what you believe in but it's just plain ignoranceNo its not pal, have a read for yourself, im usuing common sense, im say the earths young, an theres plenty to back it up. Your not understanding what im say go read up how they date the rocks, you see yourself. Apparently rocks can be dated using radiometric dating the oldest surface rock found is said to be 4 billion years old using radiometric dating 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Argonne Scientists Make Artificial Coal http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cen-v061n047.p042 Im in barbers il search out the others when i get out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 You say the information king is putting up is all guesswork yet you'll choose believe a 2000 year old book of fairy tales? I respect the fact that you always stand your ground and stick up for what you believe in but it's just plain ignoranceNo its not pal, have a read for yourself, im usuing common sense, im say the earths young, an theres plenty to back it up. Your not understanding what im say go read up how they date the rocks, you see yourself. Apparently rocks can be dated using radiometric dating Not carbon dating tho, sure the rocks are not a living organism?No not carbon dating because as you say they're not living but the CAN be dated Yes based on assumptions, which are up im the air mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,806 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Argonne Scientists Make Artificial Coal http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cen-v061n047.p042 Im in barbers il search out the others when i get out. that means nothing francie you can make a diamond from a dead body Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) But you're side of the argument is nothing but assumption is it not? It's based on religion and a few 'scientists' that agree with it. The scientists that agree with you're side of the argument are no more qualified than the ones that don't so it's a pretty weak argument Edited April 29, 2017 by daveee88 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Are the British antarctic survey lying to us when they say this Francie. Ice cores are cylinders of ice drilled out of an ice sheet or glacier. Most ice core records come from Antarctica and Greenland, and the longest ice cores extend to 3km in depth. The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment. Crucially, the ice encloses small bubbles of air that contain a sample of the atmosphere from these it is possible to measure directly the past concentration of gases (including carbon dioxide and methane) in the atmosphere No there assuming the accumulation over time has always been the same, no one can say that for a fact, its all assuming. Check out the ww2 plane buried in greenland ice cores??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Argonne Scientists Make Artificial Coal http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cen-v061n047.p042 Im in barbers il search out the others when i get out. that means nothing francie you can make a diamond from a dead body Yes it does it means coal can form quicker than expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 But you're side of the argument is nothing but assumption is it not? It's based on religion and a few 'scientists' that agree with it. The scientists that agree with you're side of the argument are no more qualified than the ones that don't so it's a pretty weak argument You quote scientists as if there only a few,theres thousands that beleive in a young earth. I look for evidence that can be tested or observed, other than that its just assumptions an guesswork, thats why it hasnt been put to bed yet mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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