neems 2,406 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 If it's about black history why not do it on the biggest atrocity in their history,the slave trade? The Arab slave trade that is,it would be good to compare the European/American model of slavery to the Arab model,or would the mass murder of pregnant sex slaves and the unspeakable mutilation of millions of boys and men,usually leading to a slow painful death be a bit too much for his age bracket? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,872 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 For me, the first black heavyweight boxer Jack Johnston deserves a mention.Private life dodgy, but he had tremendous balls to even appear in a ring at a time when the Klu Klux clan were regularly hanging blacks. Riots would regularly break out when he won.The footage of him outclassing his white opponents with the all -white crowd baying for his blood (literally) shows the sheer courage of the man. Ali gained inspiration from him, you can hear trainer Bundini Brown shouting 'Jack Johnston in the room' and 'Jack Johnston lives' in some videos of Ali. Johnston paved the way for black boxers to make a living from boxing when blacks were considered to be sub- human and unworthy of sharing a ring with a white boxer. And what about 'Bob Marley'? Created a lot of pleasure for millions of people. Bob Marley, wasn't even black man, he was half cast black mother white father fact . he had it rough as kid in jamaica , alot of the pure jamaicans didnt like him or expect him, alot of mixed race kids there had hard time there . it might be different know ,but when marley was growing up it wasn't . i was reading about him, he packed alot into life in a short time really , but you are right , his music was liked all over the world . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 If your looking for historical black figures closer to home surely you should look no further than the beautiful Diane Abbot or what about that other stalwart Margret Lawrence... You are a very naughty boy ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timmy k 590 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think you'll find bird that a lot of blacks aren't full black they got raped a lot in the plantations.look at Ali his skin wasn't so black and he wasn't a bad looker either, exactly why they would cross breed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,067 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think you'll find bird that a lot of blacks aren't full black they got raped a lot in the plantations.look at Ali his skin wasn't so black and he wasn't a bad looker either, exactly why they would cross breed. it kind of sounds like your saying the black slaves delibratly got pregnant by whites to have good looking kids?? everybody on here like to hate lawrance,,,all she was ever dooing was getting justice for loosing her son... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,057 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Millions of people want justice but they dont/cant play on the colour of their skin in order to get it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,057 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I always thought the actor Morgan Freeman was an interesting person to listen to his attitude is im not a black actor im just an actor why make black important if you dont want colour to be an issue. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,067 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Millions of people want justice but they dont/cant play on the colour of their skin in order to get it. i would use what ever leg up i got for justice.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,057 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Millions of people want justice but they dont/cant play on the colour of their skin in order to get it. i would use what ever leg up i got for justice.. Yeah i guess so........thats why i also threw the word " cant " in there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I always thought the actor Morgan Freeman was an interesting person to listen to his attitude is im not a black actor im just an actor why make black important if you dont want colour to be an issue. I want to lay on a bed made of his voice ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Millions of people want justice but they dont/cant play on the colour of their skin in order to get it. i would use what ever leg up i got for justice.. I wouldn't call that justice.........I don't know what you call that ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,747 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 never forget Doreen Lawrence buried her son in Jamaica saying that the u k did not deserve her sons body but still found time to be feted as some sort of social commentator with broad sweeping statements on u k society and was basically special guest at the London olympics Made a dame? An architecture award named after him? Why? I wanted to be an astronaut but if I'd been at it and got stuck I'm sure NASA would be keen to make a scholarship for me? Yet two g ps from the midlands are treated as pariahs for a moment of insanity, criticised by all and sundry hammered in the media, yet do a lot of good in day to day lives, all the time raising up two twins in as normal a life as they can , Kate McCann specialised as a subject matter expert in sexual abuse cases, imagine what's in her head everyday? Mental anguish constantly Where's there knighthood? The laws of the country were changed in the wake of the Steven Lawrence case , yet the McCann's are told the pot is running bare ? Why do you think that is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Doreen Lawrence had her son's body taken to Jamaica because his grave would have been defaced in the UK. There is a flagstone in memory of the boy at the exact place where he was stabbed, that has been vandalised repeatedly. So transferring the boy's remains to a place of safety is something any parent would do. The Lawrence case was as much about police corruption as race hatred. Edited April 26, 2017 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Doreen Lawrence had her son's body taken to Jamaica because his grave would have been defaced in the UK. There is a flagstone in memory of the boy at the exact place where he was stabbed, that has been vandalised repeatedly. So transferring the boy's remains to a place of safety is something any parent would do. I doubt that memorial was defaced out of some far right racist thinking, closer to the truth is that everyday people have watched the disgusting perversion of the British justice system to pander to one group of society and they are sickened by it.......its some people's way of protesting that fact. People are not blind, they could see it was nothing to do with justice.......it was a 17th century witch trial and a sacrifice with the facts distorted and the law altered to suit the narrative. It was the stuff of South American military juntas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Doreen Lawrence had her son's body taken to Jamaica because his grave would have been defaced in the UK. There is a flagstone in memory of the boy at the exact place where he was stabbed, that has been vandalised repeatedly. So transferring the boy's remains to a place of safety is something any parent would do. I doubt that memorial was defaced out of some far right racist thinking, closer to the truth is that everyday people have watched the disgusting perversion of the British justice system to pander to one group of society and they are sickened by it.......its some people's way of protesting that fact. People are not blind, they could see it was nothing to do with justice.......it was a 17th century witch trial and a sacrifice with the facts distorted and the law altered to suit the narrative. It was the stuff of South American military juntas! I think a person would get a fairer trial with a white face than a black one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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