shepp 2,285 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Pretty much how I feel. https://youtu.be/GeixtYS-P3s 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 If we followed his advice two thirds of the threads on this forum wouldn't exist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 This isn't the US, black people don't feature too much in our history, our country was homogeneous until the last few decades and didn't have any significant numbers of black slaves in the UK if any. One of our biggest global exports was our own people, the world was very underpopulated with little to no little automation. Britain had a dense population compared to most countries and that was one of our biggest assets for colonisation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Seriously Nik?! Are you trying to say that Britain wasn't a major player in the slave trade? Profits from it helped finance the industrial revolution! EDIT: They reckon a million and a half were shipped from Liverpool alone. Edited April 25, 2017 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,340 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Pretty much how I feel. https://youtu.be/GeixtYS-P3s intresting clip that,,and morgan has a point.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Seriously Nik?! Are you trying to say that Britain wasn't a major player in the slave trade? Profits from it helped finance the industrial revolution! We did not have a significant numbers of black slaves in the UK. It's not opinion it's fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 We did not have an significant numbers of black slaves in the UK. It's not opinion it's fact. So the millions passing through the ports don't count because they weren't technically in the UK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 We did not have an significant numbers of black slaves in the UK. It's not opinion it's fact. So the millions passing through the ports don't count because they weren't technically in the UK? Is your problem with 'slavery' only with the whites that did it to blacks? As I have already said treating people like cattle (especially within their own ethnic groups) was the norm. It seems like it's special case when it was a black at the hands of a white yet the arabs sure get a pass as do the Africans who were up to their elbows in it. We also come to the question "what is slavery" how were the black slaves any different to the Brits forced to work down pits or mines for a pittance? Many black freemen held slaves in the US. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,250 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 There were many African tribal leaders and kings who thought we were insane to give up slavery....it was part of their traditions and they got very fat out of it. Why should we feel bad about making a better job and more money out of something that was common practice in the lands we colonised? We simply automated an existing process really and if they value their own so little (which they obviously do to this day) who are we to argue and pass up valuable revenue? After all, we are al willing to sell drugs to future generations of our own people for revenue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 We did not have an significant numbers of black slaves in the UK. It's not opinion it's fact. So the millions passing through the ports don't count because they weren't technically in the UK? Is your problem with 'slavery' only with the whites that did it to blacks? As I have already said treating people like cattle (especially within their own ethnic groups) was the norm. It seems like it's special case when it was a black at the hands of a white yet the arabs sure get a pass as do the Africans who were up to their elbows in it. We also come to the question "what is slavery" how were the black slaves any different to the Brits forced to work down pits or mines for a pittance? Many black freemen held slaves in the US. I've highlighted it to save you scrolling back up. I'm not arsed whether it was the norm at the time I'm wondering how you reached your conclusion. Obfuscating the point doesn't answer the question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 There were many African tribal leaders and kings who thought we were insane to give up slavery....it was part of their traditions and they got very fat out of it. Why should we feel bad about making a better job and more money out of something that was common practice in the lands we colonised? We simply automated an existing process really and if they value their own so little (which they obviously do to this day) who are we to argue and pass up valuable revenue? After all, we are al willing to sell drugs to future generations of our own people for revenue. Nik asserted that we didn't have a significant number of black slaves in the UK. Considering the millions that passed through the ports I wondered if there was a technical definition of 'in' that I wasn't aware of. That period of history everyone was at it. I know that and I'm not favouring one demographic over another. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timmy k 591 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ali was a racist puppet? Why should he be their! What about ray Charles? And as has already been mentioned bob Marley probaly because the two of them were permanently high but they done more than the rest except Martin Luther King! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 We did not have an significant numbers of black slaves in the UK. It's not opinion it's fact. So the millions passing through the ports don't count because they weren't technically in the UK? Is your problem with 'slavery' only with the whites that did it to blacks? As I have already said treating people like cattle (especially within their own ethnic groups) was the norm. It seems like it's special case when it was a black at the hands of a white yet the arabs sure get a pass as do the Africans who were up to their elbows in it. We also come to the question "what is slavery" how were the black slaves any different to the Brits forced to work down pits or mines for a pittance? Many black freemen held slaves in the US. I've highlighted it to save you scrolling back up. I'm not arsed whether it was the norm at the time I'm wondering how you reached your conclusion. Obfuscating the point doesn't answer the question. I don't need to reach any conclusion, we didn't have significant numbers of black slaves in the UK period. the UK that lead the cause to ban the slave trade as well. You can perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to twist the facts but I was right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 You can perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to twist the facts Not doin so bad there, yerself! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 If your looking for historical black figures closer to home surely you should look no further than the beautiful Diane Abbot or what about that other stalwart Margret Lawrence... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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