kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Today is the first day since the start of the industrial revolution the UK was powered without coal. ..sad for the people who made a living from coal but I think its a great achievement looking forward to our future power needs https://qz.com/965581/the-uk-was-powered-without-coal-on-april-21-the-first-day-since-the-industrial-revolution/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Knny thats not 100% right . . My multi fuel is powered by coal tonight 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I respectfully disagree, its a great source of energy and with modern technology it can be very clean. I'm sceptical that green energy will be able to replace traditional fuel for a long time and even if it does there is the problem of energy storage, basically battery are the only way. Batteries require rare earth minerals often from China, they are also very polluting when disposes of and Lithium batteries are highly explosive because of the energy storied in them, you would NOT want vast banks of them anywhere near human populations. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Knny thats not 100% right . . My multi fuel is powered by coal tonight To be fair so is mine 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I respectfully disagree, its a great source of energy and with modern technology it can be very clean. I'm sceptical that green energy will be able to replace traditional fuel for a long time and even if it does there is the problem of energy storage, basically battery are the only way. Batteries require rare earth minerals often from China, they are also very polluting when disposes of and Lithium batteries are highly explosive because of the energy storied in them, you would NOT want vast banks of them anywhere near human populations. Just because that's what your hero says nik lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Haha.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I respectfully disagree, its a great source of energy and with modern technology it can be very clean. I'm sceptical that green energy will be able to replace traditional fuel for a long time and even if it does there is the problem of energy storage, basically battery are the only way. Batteries require rare earth minerals often from China, they are also very polluting when disposes of and Lithium batteries are highly explosive because of the energy storied in them, you would NOT want vast banks of them anywhere near human populations. There's got to be better ways mate fusion is the way forward imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Technology is amazing, we can make things work better, cleaner, safer etc there is absolutely zero point in rushing to the next technology while making ourselves poorer. If green energy becomes viable (which it isn't right now) that's wonderful. Here is my question.....What is the rush? P.s Remember acid rain? Anyone under 30 wont have a clue what that is 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Technology is amazing, we can make things work better, cleaner, safer etc there is absolutely zero point in rushing to the next technology while making ourselves poorer. If green energy becomes viable (which it isn't right now) that's wonderful. Here is my question.....What is the rush? P.s Remember acid rain? Anyone under 30 wont have a clue what that is what happened to acid rain? Lol Even if you burn coal with zero emissions there's still the whole mining and transportation process to take into account. .now I don't totally buy the global warming issue as we have discussed before but I do the pollution health issues associated with fossil fuels ..id like a cleaner world for my kids Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Technology is amazing, we can make things work better, cleaner, safer etc there is absolutely zero point in rushing to the next technology while making ourselves poorer. If green energy becomes viable (which it isn't right now) that's wonderful. Here is my question.....What is the rush? P.s Remember acid rain? Anyone under 30 wont have a clue what that is what happened to acid rain? Lol Even if you burn coal with zero emissions there's still the whole mining and transportation process to take into account. .now I don't totally buy the global warming issue as we have discussed before but I do the pollution health issues associated with fossil fuels ..id like a cleaner world for my kids " Acid Rain " split up. They reformed as " El Nino "! lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Now that we've shut most of the coal fired power stations in the UK, we're generating most of our electricity from burning more expensive imported gas, having built a load of new gas fired power stations over the past ten years. http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/ I think we should've stuck with coal, and spent the money we would've saved on research into future technologies like fusion and thorium reactors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 On the subject of coal, that's another Welsh smallmine shut recently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,655 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Technology is amazing, we can make things work better, cleaner, safer etc there is absolutely zero point in rushing to the next technology while making ourselves poorer. If green energy becomes viable (which it isn't right now) that's wonderful. Here is my question.....What is the rush? P.s Remember acid rain? Anyone under 30 wont have a clue what that is what happened to acid rain? Lol Even if you burn coal with zero emissions there's still the whole mining and transportation process to take into account. .now I don't totally buy the global warming issue as we have discussed before but I do the pollution health issues associated with fossil fuels ..id like a cleaner world for my kids " Acid Rain " split up. They reformed as " El Nino "! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Technology is amazing, we can make things work better, cleaner, safer etc there is absolutely zero point in rushing to the next technology while making ourselves poorer. If green energy becomes viable (which it isn't right now) that's wonderful. Here is my question.....What is the rush? P.s Remember acid rain? Anyone under 30 wont have a clue what that is what happened to acid rain? LolEven if you burn coal with zero emissions there's still the whole mining and transportation process to take into account. .now I don't totally buy the global warming issue as we have discussed before but I do the pollution health issues associated with fossil fuels ..id like a cleaner world for my kids You have to mine all the minerals to make 'green energy' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I'm from Wigan, there's prob enough coal under my feet to power he country for 200 years. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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