Best Lurcher For Deer

[Ausnick 190]

Even if they're considered a pest you'll still get charged for animal cruelty if caught by the wrong person.

 

Some of the deerhound and wolfhound crosses do have the speed for fallow in the open but they generally start losing pace if the deer are turning too much

[Silversnake 1,099]

Cruelty laws have gone many steps too far when you can't catch a goat with a dog... Even feral cats, which are destroying the place, have certain protections.

Theoretically what do you think would be best purely to run fallow Ausnick?

[Ausnick 190]

Cruelty laws have gone many steps too far when you can't catch a goat with a dog... Even feral cats, which are destroying the place, have certain protections.

Theoretically what do you think would be best purely to run fallow Ausnick?

A 26-29 inch quality roodog would be my choice. As long as it doesn't have a high percentage of greyhound in its make up it would suit Australian conditions and that game well day or night.

[Shaddy93 840]

A lad I know who use to be head huntsman at the Kilkenny hunt in Ireland once went over to oz for fox hunting whilst he was over there he ran kangaroos, goats and deer with lurchers and although he is a die hard bull greyhound man he said over there the deerhound type is mich more successful than the bull type maybe due to the long runs and extensive heat, I'm sure he ran a couple of deerhound saluki greyhound types he said there feet coped with the ground they had good stamina, big enough to cover a lot of open ground in a short space of time and had enough bottle for fox, deer and kangaroos, he could ofcourse been telling me a few porkies but I'm just going on what he told me

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,734]

 

Pre ban of course did people have problems stock breaking too sheep . if they run their dog on deer ?

 

A dog can easily differentiate between the two,the only thing my old lurcher got very interested in once he discovered deer, despite being broken to them was llama/Alpaca,I'm fairly sure by the way he acted he thought they were deer.

 

Luckily there's not too many of them around.

Careful with that , youlll end up in the daily mail ha ha

[Aussie Whip 4,092]

I can't understand the thinking that shooting is kinder,less stressfull than using dogs.Even rabbits will come out feeding an hour or less after being chased by dogs,start shooting and they stay hidden for days.There's also the shot, wounded animal getting away to die a long painfull death,rarely the case with dogs hunting them,but i suppose Im preaching to the converted.With the bull blooded hunting dogs I know they lose a lot through over heating due to there do or die attitude and hunters not keeping up with there dogs.

[Greyman 28,200]

If you think chasing with dogs is less stressful than shooting, you will find out when you come to eat the meat how wrong you are, the meat of a dog killed deer is much tougher to eat because it is full of testosterone and endorphins caused by the stress of the chase and secondly I,ve said it before many times but there seems to be an obsession in the modern lurcher world with what is in the cross, were as some of the best dogs I,ve ever owned I could not say what they were just good game dogs bred from good game dogs, I,ve seen a whippet sized lurcher that killed fox,s like a pro while the 29" at the shoulder built for the job cross just jumped around taking odd bites, I,ve seen big bully cross,s that would run along a few yards behind a deer but never quite have the minerals to get it down when a scruffy looking little cross has been nailing them quick time, it's what's inside that counts and not what it says on the label, we are working dog men not showmen

[shaaark 10,708]

If you think chasing with dogs is less stressful than shooting, you will find out when you come to eat the meat how wrong you are, the meat of a dog killed deer is much tougher to eat because it is full of testosterone and endorphins caused by the stress of the chase and secondly I,ve said it before many times but there seems to be an obsession in the modern lurcher world with what is in the cross, were as some of the best dogs I,ve ever owned I could not say what they were just good game dogs bred from good game dogs, I,ve seen a whippet sized lurcher that killed fox,s like a pro while the 29" at the shoulder built for the job cross just jumped around taking odd bites, I,ve seen big bully cross,s that would run along a few yards behind a deer but never quite have the minerals to get it down when a scruffy looking little cross has been nailing them quick time, it's what's inside that counts and not what it says on the label, we are working dog men not showmen

Good post this

[Aussie Whip 4,092]

I think the animal that escapes dogs would calm down quicker than the one shot at,and I'm talking about the animals welfare not its meat quality.

[Daniel cain 45,129]

All tastes the same if it's free imo lol.atb dc

[Greyman 28,200]

All tastes the same if it's free imo lol.atb dc

12 hours in a slow cooker with a bottle of red wine is a great equaliser for everything from road kill to a right tough old bird

[Saluki246 1,053]

If you think chasing with dogs is less stressful than shooting, you will find out when you come to eat the meat how wrong you are, the meat of a dog killed deer is much tougher to eat because it is full of testosterone and endorphins caused by the stress of the chase and secondly I,ve said it before many times but there seems to be an obsession in the modern lurcher world with what is in the cross, were as some of the best dogs I,ve ever owned I could not say what they were just good game dogs bred from good game dogs, I,ve seen a whippet sized lurcher that killed fox,s like a pro while the 29" at the shoulder built for the job cross just jumped around taking odd bites, I,ve seen big bully cross,s that would run along a few yards behind a deer but never quite have the minerals to get it down when a scruffy looking little cross has been nailing them quick time, it's what's inside that counts and not what it says on the label, we are working dog men not showmen

 

Great post well said.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

If you think chasing with dogs is less stressful than shooting, you will find out when you come to eat the meat how wrong you are, the meat of a dog killed deer is much tougher to eat because it is full of testosterone and endorphins caused by the stress of the chase and secondly I,ve said it before many times but there seems to be an obsession in the modern lurcher world with what is in the cross, were as some of the best dogs I,ve ever owned I could not say what they were just good game dogs bred from good game dogs, I,ve seen a whippet sized lurcher that killed fox,s like a pro while the 29" at the shoulder built for the job cross just jumped around taking odd bites, I,ve seen big bully cross,s that would run along a few yards behind a deer but never quite have the minerals to get it down when a scruffy looking little cross has been nailing them quick time, it's what's inside that counts and not what it says on the label, we are working dog men not showmen

I don't agree that chasing with dogs makes meat tougher and I've eaten a fair bit of both coursed and shot meat in my time. To my mind it's all in the way you cook it and the age and condition of the animal. Steak from the backstraps should be only lightly browned on the outside whereas roasted or stewed cuts need long slow cooking to be tender.

[ginger beard 4,652]

 

If you think chasing with dogs is less stressful than shooting, you will find out when you come to eat the meat how wrong you are, the meat of a dog killed deer is much tougher to eat because it is full of testosterone and endorphins caused by the stress of the chase and secondly I,ve said it before many times but there seems to be an obsession in the modern lurcher world with what is in the cross, were as some of the best dogs I,ve ever owned I could not say what they were just good game dogs bred from good game dogs, I,ve seen a whippet sized lurcher that killed fox,s like a pro while the 29" at the shoulder built for the job cross just jumped around taking odd bites, I,ve seen big bully cross,s that would run along a few yards behind a deer but never quite have the minerals to get it down when a scruffy looking little cross has been nailing them quick time, it's what's inside that counts and not what it says on the label, we are working dog men not showmen

I don't agree that chasing with dogs makes meat tougher and I've eaten a fair bit of both coursed and shot meat in my time. To my mind it's all in the way you cook it and the age and condition of the animal. Steak from the backstraps should be only lightly browned on the outside whereas roasted or stewed cuts need long slow cooking to be tender.

 

and they bleed better after running.less blood = sweeter meat.

[Saluki246 1,053]

I have no real problem with dingoes, at least they are native, but if I had sheep I would take measures to control them. Feral dogs I will kill any which way I can. I have seen what they do to a flock of sheep and it is not pretty at all. I have heard donkey's are good at protecting flocks from dingoes / feral dogs or I would get a maremma style dog. I do hope fallow become classified as a pest here, there are plenty near me and I will definitely run them if I can. I don't know how he would go but I would love to give my bull arab a crack at them, if he could catch them I would love to see him take on a big buck, a doe he would handle with ease. If I was looking for a dog purely for fallow here in Oz I would probably go for a pup from some of the tall leggy pig dogs I have seen that are staghound/deerhound/wolfhound saturated types that I have seen. Some of them are tall and fast with huge strides and cover the ground so easily I don't think fallow could escape them in the open. I personally want a dog for a range of quarry including rabbits and those types would not likely be able to catch rabbits so not really for me.