spindolero 1,110 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 How many generations did NS breed before it become 'his' breeding? Quote Link to post
Aeron 43 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 How many generations did NS breed before it become 'his' breeding? He never called it his 'line' as such. He had a job to do and needed tools for the job and made them himself. And as the saying goes 'The rest is history !' I personally think the man was way ahead of his times as far as breeding terriers went. 2 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,110 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 How many generations did NS breed before it become 'his' breeding? He never called it his 'line' as such. He had a job to do and needed tools for the job and made them himself.And as the saying goes 'The rest is history !' I personally think the man was way ahead of his times as far as breeding terriers went. In what way? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I personally think he was a lucky b*****d to have the work for the terriers, decent lads around him and a good basic set of terriers to build from. He was a joy to watch working his terriers, he was a good man on the banjo, a genius at breeding terriers he wasn't. He did no more or less than anyone that's reading this post, he kept his dogs to the best of his ability, he bred what he'd got to the best available to him, no more, no less 12 Quote Link to post
steve t 922 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 How many generations did NS breed before it become 'his' breeding? and how many generations before it stops being his? after all the lads that have them now make all the decisions, who mates who, whats good enough to be kept, etc, and they,ll have different standard and aims? 3 Quote Link to post
steve t 922 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I've got bitches here I'd work in anyone's company, I've got steady and bay mix, right through to absolutely bonkers. I keep saying it, NS terriers won't suit the bulk of terrier men, they're very intelligent, some are slow to mature, unless you're willing to put the effort in to get a good bond you'll do no good. i don't doubt you have DD heard nothing good about your self & terriers, but how many ns enthusiasts can say that.. I've heard of dozens of young terriers full of promise that got pts because of ego's and people in a rush to get to the finish line. One thing I've learned over the years is that there is no finish line. I've had and have still got flyers, but the vast majority of these start early but don't seem to put it all together until they're at the end of their second season. The trouble is everyone's heard about the "special" line of terriers, and they think everyone of them should be the next great thing. They won't all make it, I'd be a liar to say anything else, but it pains me to have seen so many good prospects over the years destroyed through owners not giving them a chance to mature and learn on the job. I have also seen the opposite, lads dragging 'pups' around at three and four looking for a hole end to get them going , refusing to believe they've got a dud from this line. 5 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I've got bitches here I'd work in anyone's company, I've got steady and bay mix, right through to absolutely bonkers. I keep saying it, NS terriers won't suit the bulk of terrier men, they're very intelligent, some are slow to mature, unless you're willing to put the effort in to get a good bond you'll do no good. i don't doubt you have DD heard nothing good about your self & terriers, but how many ns enthusiasts can say that..I've heard of dozens of young terriers full of promise that got pts because of ego's and people in a rush to get to the finish line. One thing I've learned over the years is that there is no finish line.I've had and have still got flyers, but the vast majority of these start early but don't seem to put it all together until they're at the end of their second season. The trouble is everyone's heard about the "special" line of terriers, and they think everyone of them should be the next great thing. They won't all make it, I'd be a liar to say anything else, but it pains me to have seen so many good prospects over the years destroyed through owners not giving them a chance to mature and learn on the job. I have also seen the opposite, lads dragging 'pups' around at three and four looking for a hole end to get them going , refusing to believe they've got a dud from this line. or been sold something, saying it's out of his dogs and then doing what the do themselves Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Huh? Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Some good sense being spoken in this thread socialising and time two very important aspects neglected by idiots. 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I've got bitches here I'd work in anyone's company, I've got steady and bay mix, right through to absolutely bonkers. I keep saying it, NS terriers won't suit the bulk of terrier men, they're very intelligent, some are slow to mature, unless you're willing to put the effort in to get a good bond you'll do no good. i don't doubt you have DD heard nothing good about your self & terriers, but how many ns enthusiasts can say that.. I've heard of dozens of young terriers full of promise that got pts because of ego's and people in a rush to get to the finish line. One thing I've learned over the years is that there is no finish line. I've had and have still got flyers, but the vast majority of these start early but don't seem to put it all together until they're at the end of their second season. The trouble is everyone's heard about the "special" line of terriers, and they think everyone of them should be the next great thing. They won't all make it, I'd be a liar to say anything else, but it pains me to have seen so many good prospects over the years destroyed through owners not giving them a chance to mature and learn on the job. I have also seen the opposite, lads dragging 'pups' around at three and four looking for a hole end to get them going , refusing to believe they've got a dud from this line.[/quote I'm still doing it 4 Quote Link to post
Mooching Celt 659 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 From what i gather NS was a damn good pigeon man too.............ie.knew how to breed winners in a very competitive world Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 From what i gather NS was a damn good pigeon man too.............ie.knew how to breed winners in a very competitive world all well and good but can he turn water into wine or part the red sea or make the blind see or even go for a wee walk on top of water, Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 I reckon he couldve in his hey day... 1 Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 i'm sure you do Quote Link to post
pauldog 10 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Say wat you like about ns if it wasn't for him some lads wouldnt have wat they got now.. 1 Quote Link to post
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