onion jonny 526 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) not a lot required of a dog to do hunt work. Edited April 27, 2017 by onion jonny 1 Quote Link to post
Tallywacker 262 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 not a lot required of a dog to do hunt work.most the lads that keep the stuff not even in service but still breed out of 2nd rate hunt bitches.. Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 not a lot required of a dog to do hunt work. Do you think thats all he did Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) i dont know , but i do know a very mediocre dog can look good in hunt service Edited April 27, 2017 by onion jonny 1 Quote Link to post
strongbow 149 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Haven't had anything to do with ns in 10-12 years, for all of you that think he bred for hunt work think again. He bred for proper digging dogs, dogs that worked their animal correctly, an by doing that his hunt terriers would come in the same litters.. He didn't bred hard dogs because they didn't suit.. Even his fox dogs/bitches he didn't like getting to close. Remember he was a hunt terrierman who was employed to provide sport an bolted foxes had to run which they struggle to do after meeting a harder type. As a child a old man told me. Always bred for ------ dogs an your fox dogs will be there to. 7 Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Haven't had anything to do with ns in 10-12 years, for all of you that think he bred for hunt work think again. He bred for proper digging dogs, dogs that worked their animal correctly, an by doing that his hunt terriers would come in the same litters.. He didn't bred hard dogs because they didn't suit.. Even his fox dogs/bitches he didn't like getting to close. Remember he was a hunt terrierman who was employed to provide sport an bolted foxes had to run which they struggle to do after meeting a harder type. As a child a old man told me. Always bred for ------ dogs an your fox dogs will be there to. There you have it.... Quote Link to post
Tallywacker 262 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Haven't had anything to do with ns in 10-12 years, for all of you that think he bred for hunt work think again. He bred for proper digging dogs, dogs that worked their animal correctly, an by doing that his hunt terriers would come in the same litters.. He didn't bred hard dogs because they didn't suit.. Even his fox dogs/bitches he didn't like getting to close. Remember he was a hunt terrierman who was employed to provide sport an bolted foxes had to run which they struggle to do after meeting a harder type. As a child a old man told me. Always bred for ------ dogs an your fox dogs will be there to.totally agree the wastage should at least make fox dogs, which leaves me thinking where are these digging bitches?or did the ns enthusiasts only got hold of his wastage which they keep folding back in hence the amount of poor bitches Iv seen.. Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 very mediocre dog can look good in hunt service Agree, in fact I'd go as far as to say rubbish can look good on a hunting day, theres a lot goes on at other times though and thats when the terriers prove their worth 1 Quote Link to post
strongbow 149 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Haven't had anything to do with ns in 10-12 years, for all of you that think he bred for hunt work think again. He bred for proper digging dogs, dogs that worked their animal correctly, an by doing that his hunt terriers would come in the same litters.. He didn't bred hard dogs because they didn't suit.. Even his fox dogs/bitches he didn't like getting to close. Remember he was a hunt terrierman who was employed to provide sport an bolted foxes had to run which they struggle to do after meeting a harder type. As a child a old man told me. Always bred for ------ dogs an your fox dogs will be there to.totally agree the wastage should at least make fox dogs, which leaves me thinking where are these digging bitches?or did the ns enthusiasts only got hold of his wastage which they keep folding back in hence the amount of poor bitches Iv seen..some of the best I've seen have been bitches an from nicks line, if you can call it his? But that another thing, again with his bitches that were used on hunt days, don't go thinking they were one trick ponies because they weren't, they worked the first the same as the fifth or sixth. they worked every animal with the same style, the style that suited him. Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 not a lot required of a dog to do hunt work.[/quote That's a bit of a bold statement bud] Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 not a lot required of a dog to do hunt work.[/quote That's a bit of a bold statement bud] Correct. I was in that frame of mind until I needed a terrier for hunt work. They're not as easy to come by as you think... 1 Quote Link to post
strongbow 149 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 very mediocre dog can look good in hunt service Agree, in fact I'd go as far as to say rubbish can look good on a hunting day, theres a lot goes on at other times though and thats when the terriers prove their worth i do agree with you as regards to rubbish can look good on hunting days, but I think you have to take a few things into account. The first is what was asked of you i.e. To account of the fox or was it going to be hunted. Seen it so many times when a hunt is required an too much of a dog is entered resulting in damage and fox being shot. Then there's were in the country you are remember when fox hunting was legal a lot of packs stopped an if one got to ground it would be in nothing more than a kicked out rabbit earth so not much of a dog was required... Take the same dog to the Welsh mountains, Cumbria, a lot wilder of a country where you get a lot wilder of a fox was that same dog capable of doing the same job??? It's knowing your dogs,, every good hunt terrierman kennelled dogs that you could call rubbish but at the same time the same dog was worth its weight in gold.. But would you ever bred from it??? Never. 1 Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 very mediocre dog can look good in hunt service Agree, in fact I'd go as far as to say rubbish can look good on a hunting day, theres a lot goes on at other times though and thats when the terriers prove their worth i do agree with you as regards to rubbish can look good on hunting days, but I think you have to take a few things into account. The first is what was asked of you i.e. To account of the fox or was it going to be hunted. Seen it so many times when a hunt is required an too much of a dog is entered resulting in damage and fox being shot. Then there's were in the country you are remember when fox hunting was legal a lot of packs stopped an if one got to ground it would be in nothing more than a kicked out rabbit earth so not much of a dog was required... Take the same dog to the Welsh mountains, Cumbria, a lot wilder of a country where you get a lot wilder of a fox was that same dog capable of doing the same job??? It's knowing your dogs,, every good hunt terrierman kennelled dogs that you could call rubbish but at the same time the same dog was worth its weight in gold.. But would you ever bred from it??? Never. I agree with you mate, a hard pressed fox on a Welsh mountain is totally different prospect to a fox put out for a mounted pack Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 was always told a terrier mans yard should be like a bag of tools a dog for different jobs some dogs dont like working stones some dont like hay stacks some wont push in wet drains when your with hounds you need all and more of the above to be covered welsh foxes on the hill are a cut above the rest Im sure ns kept what he had for a reason to please himself and to do what he wanted with them work seems the guy is a bit like marmite you either love him or hate him Quote Link to post
DogMan85 722 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) was always told a terrier mans yard should be like a bag of tools a dog for different jobs some dogs dont like working stones some dont like hay stacks some wont push in wet drains when your with hounds you need all and more of the above to be covered welsh foxes on the hill are a cut above the rest Im sure ns kept what he had for a reason to please himself and to do what he wanted with them work seems the guy is a bit like marmite you either love him or hate him If some dogs don't like working any of the above then they shouldn't be a Terriermans dogs...... Edited April 27, 2017 by DogMan85 Quote Link to post
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