Lid 194 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Presumably these are not actual figures but estimations based on exit polls? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Lol, that's assuming there's an EU for the naive and deluded to vote us back into. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree? Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,499 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Try murphy's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I understand people not wanting to leave the EU because of uncertainties but surely most people must be un happy with the current Eu setup Anyone with common sense can see major problems with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Indeed problems with Europe but globalization is happening and trying to hide on our little island is not the answer. Europe will be a major player and we will become an offshore tax haven for the rich and a sweat shop for the poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree? Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time? What scientists think An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research. None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving. The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees). Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.” UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.” Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU. Scientists for EU, Feb 2016 Edited May 9, 2017 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Indeed problems with Europe but globalization is happening and trying to hide on our little island is not the answer. Europe will be a major player and we will become an offshore tax haven for the rich and a sweat shop for the poor. Europe will be a much weaker force without us and we will be free of their shackles Free to do deals that's best for us not them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree? Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time? What scientists think An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research. None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving. The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees). Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.” UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.” Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU. Scientists for EU, Feb 2016 I know very well what the scientific community think, I'm part of it! Referring to them as "the intelligent" is a bit pathetic, like intelligent people don't take up other professions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Or maybe the scientists want to remain in the EU because their jobs receive a lot of EU funding? My reasons for leaving the EU is to give us the opportunity to cut immigration, save money by scrapping the UK's membership fee, have UK laws made in Westminster, and to allow the UK to set up trading agreements with whoever we like. I see no reason for the UK to discontinue cooperation or funding with European countries when it comes to security or scientific research. Edited May 9, 2017 by C556 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 As much as I dislike what the EU has become, if it did collapse, I would be more than happy for the UK to be part a European trading zone. You could even give it a fancy name like European Economic Community. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Double post. Edited May 9, 2017 by C556 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Or maybe the scientists want to remain in the EU because their jobs receive a lot of EU funding? My reasons for leaving the EU is to give us the opportunity to cut immigration, save money by scrapping the UK's membership fee, have UK laws made in Westminster, and to allow the UK to set up trading agreements with whoever we like. I see no reason for the UK to discontinue cooperation or funding with European countries when it comes to security or scientific research. Excatly pal, its all about the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off. Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree? Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time? What scientists think An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research. None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving. The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees). Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.” UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.” Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU. Scientists for EU, Feb 2016 I know very well what the scientific community think, I'm part of it! Referring to them as "the intelligent" is a bit pathetic, like intelligent people don't take up other professions. Do I detect a straw man?? I didn't refer to them as intelligent, I referred to them as scientists, I did use them as examples of intelligent peoples and their opinions on a subject. Do you feel they are not intelligent? Edited May 9, 2017 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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